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The reality is that you need a set of different designs for different situations. The divider-style ones are good for working in smaller spaces and deeply set parts and on rings that are not too badly stuck, but they do succumb to twisting of the legs under a lot of force. I have resorted to clamping a long-nosed pair of vise grips across the legs to reinforce them when I needed a lot of torque, with limited success. I also have three different versions of the crossbar-style spanner that hold up better under higher torque applications but have the tendency for the set-screws that lock the points to the crossbar to fail and the points slip out of place as I'm trying to turn the thing. This was a problem with the ones mentioned in post #24, as well as the springs that hold the points letting go under a lot of force (and in one case, scratching a lens for me.) The real test was trying to release the retaining ring for a taking lens on a Mamiya C-series TLR that was stuck on the mounting plate. All the above-mentioned tools failed and I finally had to drill out the attachment ring and split it by inserting a large screwdriver blade into the hole and twisting it until the ring broke.

So with that experience in mind I bought one of these spanners that I mentioned above: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2554024228...d=link&campid=5338260023&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

Got it from Japan Hobby Tool, who seem to be the people who make them. $30 plus shipping, delivered in two days from Tokyo, though as I mentioned above you can get it from B&H and possibly save money on the shipping. Looks very sturdy, seems to be well engineered, and the side orientation of the handle and the attachment method of the points look promising. But it clearly isn't going to be terribly useful for working on parts that are deeply set. would have been handy working on that Mamiya TLR lens, though the corrosion that was preventing that ring from turning was the toughest I've ever seen and I'm not convinced that any of the spanners we've discussed would have loosened it. (I did try all sorts of solvents and a heat gun to no effect...)

UPDATE: Yesterday I dug out an old Mamiya lens assembly with a deeply-set internal retaining ring that I had been unable to move with any of my many spanners. I set up the new spanner for the correct distance between the points for this ring. (This was a bit fiddly to adjust but with a little patience do-able.) I put a little downward pressure to make sure the points on the spanner were engaged with the slots on the ring and began to turn it--the ring moved immediately and extracting it was easy. Having the additional leverage of the offset handle, rather than having my hand smack on the rotational axis of the ring made a huge difference; I think this is going to be a very useful tool.
 
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One of the single most valuable camera tool purchases that I've ever made is this:
https://japanhobbytool.com/collections/camera-repair-tool/products/vacuum-pad-lens-opener
Often, it's all that's needed for removing lens beauty rings, optical cells, decorative wind-lever screws (especially!), Barnack portholes, and dozens of other applications. If you slip, you're unlikely to cause damage. Even when the part has slots or holes to accommodate a spanner wrench, I'll try the vacuum pads first.
 

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Lots of nice spanner wrenches shown here. I have repaired many, many lenses without ever owning a spanner wrench. I use o-rings, plastic tubing and rubber things. It would be nice to have a spanner wrench though.
 

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I have that one from Throlabs, they are good but if you need real torque they are flexible and you might find they will slip from the ring your want to take out.
I use it permanently with the rounded pointy end, very good for take out dials from SLRs, winding knobs and such but not strong for retaining rings from lenses. For more torque I use modified old calipers and steel compasses with mod points.
 

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What ever spanner you use on a lens, I have found a single drop of 91% alcohol (or if you are desperate, acetone) on the threads is the best insurance to avoid a slipping spanner on beauty rings and other lens rings.

This often makes it MUCH easier to break-free a stubborn lens retaining ring...
 

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I'm looking for a deep or long reach spanner wrench, any ideas would be helpful it needs to reach into a cone ~3.5+ inches to release a helicoid haven't seen much a model with 2 rectangular bars (so one could be removed) might work, I've only seen the double beam type with round bars...
 

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Sorry just thought of this, the credit card type(toyo/rodenstock) might work
How wide are they in the copal 0 orientation?
 

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A hundred dollars is completely in reason for a well made version made out of machined stainless steel. If you were using one on a professional basis, this is the kind of quality you'd want, provided the correct selection of points were available. The Micro Tools one looks sensible too. Ideally, your workbench should have several types on hand. I only use spanners once in awhile, so make my own.

For removing stuck stubborn filters, I simply wrap a strong plastic ZipTie around it.
 
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I'm looking for a deep or long reach spanner wrench, any ideas would be helpful it needs to reach into a cone ~3.5+ inches to release a helicoid haven't seen much a model with 2 rectangular bars (so one could be removed) might work, I've only seen the double beam type with round bars...
?? https://www.ebay.com/itm/395594712098

Looks like the vertical members can be released and slid up and down. Find the diameter rod and make your own.

The low price might be a warning, of course. Then again, the low price... what have you got to lose>

Another approach is to take a steel bar and grind it at the end with the appropriate tabs and clearance, grind edges to fit in opening, etc.
 

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I used this spanner wrench from Neewer just yesterday.

Its solidly made, has withstood all the stresses so far, can be secured with hexagon screws or rotary screws, and its tips/blades can be set up inwards or outwards.

You have to be careful with all models. Not only because of the possibility of slipping and scratching, but also so that the tool doesn't hit your face. High torques are used and if you slip, the tool can get out of control.
 

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I'm looking for a deep or long reach spanner wrench, any ideas would be helpful it needs to reach into a cone ~3.5+ inches to release a helicoid haven't seen much a model with 2 rectangular bars (so one could be removed) might work, I've only seen the double beam type with round bars...

Have a look at

 

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Have a look at

Here's the handle for those long bits-


The bits are 60mm long, so a bit short for the 3.5 inch lens. You could buy a steel rod and grind your own ends on them. Here's a 5mm steel rod that can be cut in half and give you the length you need-

 

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I used this spanner wrench from Neewer just yesterday.

Its solidly made, has withstood all the stresses so far, can be secured with hexagon screws or rotary screws, and its tips/blades can be set up inwards or outwards.

You have to be careful with all models. Not only because of the possibility of slipping and scratching, but also so that the tool doesn't hit your face. High torques are used and if you slip, the tool can get out of control.

I'll probably go with this type of double beam spanner and cut the lower beam if necessary, seems like the simplest solution
 

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Here's the handle for those long bits-


The bits are 60mm long, so a bit short for the 3.5 inch lens. You could buy a steel rod and grind your own ends on them. Here's a 5mm steel rod that can be cut in half and give you the length you need-


Instead of looking for a harden rod, consider buying a couple of Harbor Freight cheap black handled sets of screwdrivers, on sale now for $2.99@ set of six.

This set has both a Philips and flat slot driver four inches long tool steel shaft and I believe two of the flat slots, one from each kit, will be quickest to shape into a pair of usable spanner elements.

Cheers
 
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