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Quite frankly it 's of no consequence to me if cameras were in space or anywhere else or owned by famous people to me cameras are tools not cult objects worthy of semi-religious devotion.
 

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Quite frankly it 's of no consequence to me if cameras were in space or anywhere else or owned by famous people to me cameras are tools not cult objects worthy of semi-religious devotion.

Unlike owned by famous people, consider that selected by NASA implies that the product will meet more rigorous requirements since it will be quite expensive to service the product once launched . . . :cool:
 

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Unlike owned by famous people, consider that selected by NASA implies that the product will meet more rigorous requirements since it will be quite expensive to service the product once launched . . . :cool:

Most government agencies buy a "service contract" on pricey equipment and the service companies are usually required to make repairs on site.:tongue:
 

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PE... it was a joke. :D
 

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I wonder if taking the camera into space voided the warranties :smile:
 

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PE... it was a joke. :D

I understood that. Besides, I don't think Red wanted to travel into space, oped a capsule, climb over to another that was open and get out his kit of tiny tools! I can picture him in a space suit sitting on the end of the capsule working on a camera! Whoops, reentry time and there he is either going down or staying behind depending on how hard he was holding on! Oh, you brought a series of scenarios to mind, some of which were written about by a good friend of mine who writes SF. He has about 9 best sellers out there, and astronauts moving from capsule to capsule is in one of them.

PE
 

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Unlike owned by famous people, consider that selected by NASA implies that the product will meet more rigorous requirements since it will be quite expensive to service the product once launched . . . :cool:
Do you mean like Challenger that blew up 73 seconds after launch ?
 

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Do you mean like Challenger that blew up 73 seconds after launch ?

Management political agendas which caused them to force launch after engineers warned them of faulty seals has already been addressed but, yes, I assume their decisions were made similarly... or from pure laziness.
 

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Management political agendas which caused them to force launch after engineers warned them of faulty seals has already been addressed but, yes, I assume their decisions were made similarly... or from pure laziness.
After a little thought I think my remarks were a little unfair to N.A.S.A. and below the belt.
 

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After a little thought I think my remarks were a little unfair to N.A.S.A. and below the belt.

Not below-the-belt to NASA management they weren't. They were spot-on.
 

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NASA had its own service department so to speak. It was located in hangar S when I was there.

P.E., I went to a lecture once that was given to a group of geologists and petroleum engineers by one of the people at NASA connected with photography. Along with the requisite (sp) "moon rocks", we were shown 6x6 slides shot from orbiting craft. He said these were all shot with special Hasselblads using a special film (probably Ektachrome) that Kodak made for NASA that was about the thickness of Saranwrap. The slides that we saw were undoubtly copies. He said that one of his jobs was to fly the films to Dallas where there was a lab that specialized in special jobs. (Ulrich Meisel's lab) Do you remember anything about any of this? I know Meisel did work for NASA....Regards!
 

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I read fairly recently that it has cost the U.S. taxpayer about the same amount of money to pursue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that it did to put men on the moon.
 

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P.E., I went to a lecture once that was given to a group of geologists and petroleum engineers by one of the people at NASA connected with photography. Along with the requisite (sp) "moon rocks", we were shown 6x6 slides shot from orbiting craft. He said these were all shot with special Hasselblads using a special film (probably Ektachrome) that Kodak made for NASA that was about the thickness of Saranwrap. The slides that we saw were undoubtly copies. He said that one of his jobs was to fly the films to Dallas where there was a lab that specialized in special jobs. (Ulrich Meisel's lab) Do you remember anything about any of this? I know Meisel did work for NASA....Regards!

To save volume and weight the emulsion was coated on thin PET base. I guess 0.05mm (about 1/3 of that used in standard type 135 films).

I got series of 2x2 promotional slides from Zeiss, based on the ones you refer too.
 

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The coatings were made on 2 mil estar for conservation of weight and maximization of the footage available. This subject has been addressed several times here. I have posted some of the photos I have here on APUG and on PN.

Strangely enough, there are no Englishmen to be found in the photos, but there is a little old lady in the background with a whole bunch of Corgis. Could that be what was referred to earlier? Far of in the distance is a blue police box, a gal in a black leather jacket with "ACE" on it and a bunch of patches, and an old man with the most bizarre sweater and umbrella.

I referred this to the Brigadier.

PE
 

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Not really Benjiboy. The way I heard Niel tell in in an obscure videotaped interview, we were trying to beat the Russians to the moon, but when Neil and Buzz got there they found 2 Englishmen sitting there in their space suits having a spot of tea.
I thought they were from the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
 

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To save volume and weight the emulsion was coated on thin PET base. I guess 0.05mm (about 1/3 of that used in standard type 135 films).


The coatings were made on 2 mil estar for conservation of weight and maximization of the footage available.

"2 mil" = 0.05mm




ESTAR is the Kodak tradename for PET film-base.



He said these were all shot with special Hasselblads using a special film (probably Ektachrome) that Kodak made for NASA that was about the thickness of Saranwrap.

2 mil is still about 4x thicker than Saran Wrap, let aside different physikal properties
 
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I read fairly recently that it has cost the U.S. taxpayer about the same amount of money to pursue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that it did to put men on the moon.

But at least men actually went to Afghanistan and Iraq.

(ducks and runs...)
 

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Praktina and Pentacon Super were used by Soviets in space, that makes sense as they were the only cameras comparable to Nikon Fs.

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I would have brought an old folder, some Tri-X and a handheld meter:}

Funny, would have thought that a Kiev, Leningrad and a Practica would have been at the bottom of the list, but those folks obviously know more about it that me. At least they didn't bring a Zenit. It would probably still be up there.
 

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I would have brought an old folder, some Tri-X and a handheld meter:}

Funny, would have thought that a Kiev, Leningrad and a Practica would have been at the bottom of the list, but those folks obviously know more about it that me. At least they didn't bring a Zenit. It would probably still be up there.
Well the Hasselblads are still up there.
 

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I know little about Soviet space flight cameras. However, I was in Minolta usa office hdqts then located on Union Square in NYC onthe very day when news came that the first camera used in outer space by the US space program was a Minolta slr. Minolta has always had a reputation for first class optics. Canon and Nikon were the beneficiaries of possible Communist control of Western Europe and ,respectively,Leitz and Zeiss loss of patents to Canon and Nikon.
 
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