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bvy · Jun 4, 2015

What's the effective speed of this paper?

There was someone a few years ago who posted a series of studio portraits (i.e. with strobes) made on DPP in an 8x10. They were very impressive.

ParkerSmithPhoto · Jun 4, 2015

TheToadMen said:
Hi Parker, that's a beautiful portrait. Fitting the Pictorialism period around 1900. Something I like to try myself.
I never preflashed before. Can you tell me how you did this with DPP?
Thanks.

Several people have posted on flashing this paper, so I just followed their advice. In short, you want to treat it just like flashing any silver paper, use a small amount of white light and expose it to just below the threshold.

I believe when I made that portrait I had taken to over flashing, meaning exposing it slightly beyond the threshold, making the darkest shadows not pure black. That made it easier to control. Combined with selenium toning it really gave a nice, albumen-like feel.

I'll try to find my notebook and post more specific details. I had metered it so I could reproduce it with any light source and timer.

sfaber17 · Jun 4, 2015

So how does it work?

ParkerSmithPhoto · Jun 4, 2015

bvy said:
What's the effective speed of this paper?

It's around 3 ASA, or ISO, or whatever it is now.

bvy · Jun 4, 2015

Thanks.

More inspiration (the portraits I spoke of...):
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

mjs · Jun 4, 2015

Time to restart the 10x16 pinhole project...

Mike

Joe VanCleave · Jun 4, 2015

bvy said:
What's the effective speed of this paper?

There was someone a few years ago who posted a series of studio portraits (i.e. with strobes) made on DPP in an 8x10. They were very impressive.

I've rated it at ISO 1.6 in shade and ISO 3 in bright sun. There's no "right" answer, it depends on developer, dilution, temperature, etc. But that'll get you in the ballpark.

~Joe

PS: As the data sheet indicates, the paper is intrinsically high in contrast, and not panchromatic. I find the tones easier to manage in low-contrast light, such as shaded daylight, typically at around ISO 1.6. In bright sun the highlights can blow easily, so I tend to down-rate the ISO to around 3 - 6 range. Controlling the light is essential to good results tonally, hence why studio lighting can produce great results when managed properly.

Joe VanCleave · Jun 4, 2015

sfaber17 said:
So how does it work?

How does the emulsion reverse itself? I've read somewhere that it's based on Ilford Cibachrome technology. Someone more informed than I will chime in, hopefully.

~Joe

pdeeh · Jun 4, 2015

As far as the technology goes, I have it on good authority that the reason there was a delay in reintroducing the emulsion because a single vital ingredient was unavailable in sufficient quantity.

Fortunately, Harman's dastardly scientists have now cloned enough copies of Tinkerbell to enable the requisite amounts of Faerie Dust to be harvested from her/their wings to add to the kettles.

Unfortunately, this does mean that vast numbers of Tinkerbells are now confined in the secret underground bunkers at Mobberley, in conditions that would shame a chicken ranch.

Gerald C Koch · Jun 4, 2015

Roger Cole said:
You mean in black and white? I don't recall that paper unless one could reversal process Panalure, which might have been possible.

But if there were a panchromatic version of normal contrast for that it would be very cool.

Or do you mean type R color paper for color prints from slides? I miss that too.

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Don't remember the name as I used it in the 60's. It was not Panalure but designed specifically for making prints from color slides. The paper had a panchromatic B&W emulsion coated on stiff plastic stock. Thinking back now it used a conventional reversal development system. I remember using sodium hydrosulfite as the fogging developing agent.

sfaber17 · Jun 4, 2015

Joe VanCleave said:
How does the emulsion reverse itself? I've read somewhere that it's based on Ilford Cibachrome technology. Someone more informed than I will chime in, hopefully.

Apparently it uses a standard black and white paper developing process and not a reversal process, so I guess it must reverse itself as you say somehow.

Lachlan Young · Jun 5, 2015

sfaber17 said:
Apparently it uses a standard black and white paper developing process and not a reversal process, so I guess it must reverse itself as you say somehow.

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Xmas · Jun 5, 2015

It was possible to reverse Panalure.

But gory details...
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2010827171602436.pdf

Ricardo Miranda · Jun 5, 2015

Very nice gory details!

LarsAC · Jun 5, 2015

Sounds exciting! Does that paper fit into 8x10 film holders?

Lars

pdeeh · Jun 5, 2015

pdeeh · Jun 5, 2015

well, to be more precise, the 10x8 paper will fit 10x8 holders. the other sizes won't.

flavio81 · Jun 5, 2015

Wowowoww!! This is great news!!

LarsAC · Jun 5, 2015

pdeeh said:
well, to be more precise, the 10x8 paper will fit 10x8 holders. the other sizes won't.

Thanks, didn't have anything else in mind. Was more curious about thickness of FB vs. film.

Lars

Xmas · Jun 5, 2015

LarsAC said:
Thanks, didn't have anything else in mind. Was more curious about thickness of FB vs. film.

Lars

225gm/ is quite thick see the data sheet.

spoolman · Jun 5, 2015

I found out today from my local film and paper supply place that the Ilford Direct positive paper will also be available in limited quantities in 11x14, 16x20 and in 20",40" and 50" wide rolls.

Doug

RalphLambrecht · Jun 5, 2015

Simon R Galley said:
Dear All,

As promised a little time ago ....... http://goo.gl/T2wz7d

Simon : HARMAN technology Limited :

I wish I knew a monobath developer formula for this paper to use it as a Polaroid replacement

graflexboy · Aug 8, 2015

RalphLambrecht said:
I wish I knew a monobath developer formula for this paper to use it as a Polaroid replacement

So, just wondering, would the New55 R3 Monobath Developer be able to develop Ilford's DPP? See here:

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EDIT: And the New55 folks mention that this Monobath is based on a formula from Donald Qualls.

Micah in NC
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TheToadMen · Aug 8, 2015

graflexboy said:
So, just wondering, would the New55 R3 Monobath Developer be able to develop Ilford's DPP? See here:

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I only found this and it doesn't seem to be ...

Posted by someone called Bob:

"Peter, Yes, I use R3 on paper and it works very well.
It does not work well with Ilford's Direct Positive paper, but I have a formula that does work with that paper. If I have time in the next few weeks I will try to fine tune it and show the results, and provide the details."

source: http://new55project.blogspot.nl/2011/08/r3-and-other-monobaths-are-so-easy-and.html

Posted by New55:

"Direct positive paper requires a different monobath. The Paterson Orbital sort of works, but not well. 1 minute exposure, f8, 300mm. R7 BC"
"Which direct positive paper did you use?"
"Efke"

source: https://www.facebook.com/1909558842...955884271025/1003875809645691/?type=1&theater

graflexboy · Aug 8, 2015

TheToadMen said:
I only found this and it doesn't seem to be ...

Ah, I see, it sounds like R3 Monobath is maybe not a good match for DPP. Thanks.

Micah in NC
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