So what IS this lomo 400 film?

[Berri]

OT: How do you make nice color contact sheets like that??

you place the negatives into a contact print frame with an RA4 sheet of paper, expose it and process it. The correct exposure time should be enough to make the film rebate black. Use standard filtration for the paper
in use.

 

[rpavich]

OT: How do you make nice color contact sheets like that??

The normal way. I put the negs in the sleeves and then use a contact sheet maker or just a piece of glass to hold them tight against the paper while enlarging. I expose for the time to make the rebate of the negative (the clear part) just barely black.

 

[carlostaiwan]

What do the negs look like? I shot mine at either 250 or 320 I can't remember but I try and keep things a little bit on the over exposure side and rarely shoot 400 film at 400.

For example, the first one of the pug, I focused on him, and lock the exposure and focus. He is totally underexposed. A few minutes after I changed the roll to a C200, and the picture is perfectly exposed.
I guess I should shoot the "Lomography 400" at 320, or even 200. I still have a couple of rolls extra, but I'm not sure if I will buy it again, I prefer a real "400"

 

[rpavich]

Actually both are correctly exposed! The sunlight looks fine and the shady second shot looks fine..the problem is that your subject (pug) isn't lit; he's in shade and so you can't have that huge area of really bright sunlight in the frame and expect the camera to make a good decision about exposure.
The way to fix this is one of two ways;

1.) Shoot manual and set the exposure yourself based on the light FALLING ON THE SUBJECT.
2.) Fool the camera by half pressing the shutter with the camera pointed at the shade ONLY and then reframe to include the sunlight if you want. (I see that you said you did it but clearly, it didn't work. Either it didn't really lock, or something)

Not sure what camera you have but the key question is; "how is the subject lit?"

 

[carlostaiwan]

That's exactly what I did (2), but I guess there was a lot of harsh light and high contrast situations, I bought one of those 3-pack from Lomography, I will finish them and write a review about it
This picture without shade actually gave really punchy colors, so maybe is not that bad! hehe

 

[rpavich]

That's exactly what I did (2), but I guess there was a lot of harsh light and high contrast situations, I bought one of those 3-pack from Lomography, I will finish them and write a review about it
This picture without shade actually gave really punchy colors, so maybe is not that bad! hehe

Yeah...it's not a fault of the film...but a fault of how you went about it or if the camera did what it was supposed to.
What camera are you using? Is it auto exposure?

 

[carlostaiwan]

Nikon F100 and 24-120D, usually in Aperture mode or Manual, and always in center-weight metering, that's why I was surprised, usually I measure the subject first and most pictures are perfectly exposed

 

[rpavich]

Nikon F100 and 24-120D, usually in Aperture mode or Manual, and always in center-weight metering, that's why I was surprised, usually I measure the subject first and most pictures are perfectly exposed

Well, things happen I guess but for sure, it's not the film.
PS: Extra points for being a pug owner...they are the best dogs there are.

 

[Adrian Bacon]

I just saw that these films are also available in 120 format. At the present time kodak doesn't produce any consumer grade film in this format, so it is definitely a special run made by kodak for lomography. The 100 ISO in 120 size is not available in this moment, don't know if this means that is discontinued or they're expecting a new batch.

Eh, it likely comes in big rolls that lomo cuts to size and packages. If you order enough, you can actually get it from kodak in pretty much any form you want.

 

[trendland]

This lomo 400 film you suspect as Kodak
gold is indeed an older Kodak emmulsion.

It is Kodak VR 400.


with regards

 

[Berri]

This lomo 400 film you suspect as Kodak
gold is indeed an older Kodak emmulsion.

It is Kodak VR 400.


with regards

where did you get this information? and what about the 100 iso? Are those films produced as special orders from kodak or is it just some old expired material that they maneged to find on the market?

 

[Berri]

Inovis Coat in Germany can still produce colour negative film and it is known that they produce material for the impossible project, I thought they could be parthners with lomography as well

 

[Prest_400]

Inovis Coat in Germany can still produce colour negative film and it is known that they produce material for the impossible project, I thought they could be parthners with lomography as well

Well, yes infact. The Lomochromes, not E6 by what name would imply but a shifted dye C41 films, are supposedly made in Germany by them.
Lomo is a mix of different suppliers.

 

[trendland]

where did you get this information? and what about the 100 iso? Are those films produced as special orders from kodak or is it just some old expired material that they maneged to find on the market?

As you can identify on one

where did you get this information? and what about the 100 iso? Are those films produced as special orders from kodak or is it just some old expired material that they maneged to find on the market?

Have a look on the edge markings.
The differences between Kodak Gold 200, Kodak Gold 400, and other types
of Kodak Gold you will easily identify there.

The scan of the lomo 400 is Kodak VR400. I have it in mind from my Kodak
VR400 and VR200 films.

If you have no " Gold " in the edge markings it must be Kodak VR like
this marking :

" 400 - 3 " " 200 - 3 "


So what is Kodak VR ?

VR was the very last outstanding and advanced new c41 Kodak emmulsion in the 80th.

An absolute great film with very smal grain and lovely colors for the 80th.

So KODAk modified VR as ISO1000 or
we should better say the first VR design
was prepared to have highest spend later.

VR Films are discontinued since the mid
90th if I have it correct in mind as Kodak designed the "Gold Family".

But in 2001 they offered VR again as cheapest of their films.

Now you can speculate if the latest Kodak VR400 and VR200 films could also
be Gold 200 and Gold 400 - because
VR masterols got off as Kodak Gold were still in production at least.

Therefore the edge markings.


I love it very much because of the typical
colors - but I prefer the ISO 200 type.

with regards

 

[trendland]

Th

Kodak Gold or Ultramax?

Gold/Ultramax only refers to speed right? So you have Gold 100/200 and Ultramax 400... right? EDIT: Wait, there's also Gold 400... what is the difference between Gold and Ultramax?

They main difference you also can see
is the new package design with a friendly new "blue" as a good color contrast to
Kodak's typical yellow.

And the name is new "ultramax" it sounds better

Notice : It is the same film.


with regards

 

[Berri]

Kodacolor plus 200 is still widely available here in europe and it is the kodak cheapest film, cheaper than gold 200. I don't have any at this time so I can't tell what the marking on the film rebate is but I'm sure it must be similar to the VR films family. Now I really whant to try this lomography 100 stuff in 120 size because I love the colour palette and the overall rendition of Kodak cheap films and I'm thrilled about using it in medium format, so sad it is not available at this time, does anybody know if this is the end of it or just waiting to get new material? Does anybody know how long this product has being marked as not available on the lomography website?

 

[trendland]

I would say it could be the end.
Nobody knowes it at the time.

So if Kodak Alaris decides to produce
new emmulsions of that type I will be the
first getting it.


Back to Kodak Plus 200 - the rolls are
the absolut same as the VR rolls ( from
design and from the inscription ) it is indeed a little confusing.

But it has also the same edge markings
as VR - so it should be VR Film with a new name.

ISO100 Gold has been discontinued since some years first.

If the120 ISO100 you are looking for is from Kodak originaly, I have no idea what
film this could be.

I don't think that there where old masterrols from Kodak in the market
so as we have heard it from Agfa.

At the time you could not get 120 Ektar100
but Alaris stated that they won't discontinue Ektar100 - the are only not able in delivery.

Some asked why ????


with regards

 

[Berri]

I found this http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21103173894559 perhaps this is what agfa vista 200 really is...

 

[trendland]

I found this http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21103173894559 perhaps this is what agfa vista 200 really is...

Well that sounds not so bad - may be you have identfied the source of the new Agfas.

But I would say they comes from Fuji.

Have a short look on the Fuji CN 200.

with regards

 

[Prest_400]

ISO100 Gold has been discontinued since some years first.

If the120 ISO100 you are looking for is from Kodak originaly, I have no idea what
film this could be.

I don't think that there where old masterrols from Kodak in the market
so as we have heard it from Agfa.

I recall Gold 100 was discontinued due to low demand and they did not cite technical problems, infact I think it had a rather quiet discontinuation. So, the formula may still be very well usable (ie, no extensive R&D overhauls) but Kodak themselves don't want to market it. Similar case for the 800 UltraMAX, not sold on stand alone rolls under Kodak brand.
Lomo comes and contracts manufacturing of 100, 400 and 800 C41 films... Kodak has the formulas and facilities.
Another plausible matter is that the CN100 is Kodacolor 200 downrated, some theory I've read around.

Ektar not being available may be more of a distributor problem. If you dig around the forums about a year or so ago, there was this rather amusing situation of Portra 400 being on backorder almost everywhere due to having ran out the stocks between batch manufacturing. Then the backorders displaced to 400H because people sought it as a substitute, stocks sold out, and that wasn't in Fuji's forecast... At least it didn't mean the too usual low demand reasons that butchered many films.

does anybody know if this is the end of it or just waiting to get new material? Does anybody know how long this product has being marked as not available on the lomography website?

They have done an Easter sale (check: Still going!) and I guess people have taken quite some stocks. I opened their store (Spanish, Spain) and all three are available. The 800 is at 14,37€ for 3 rolls... Cheap compared to Portra 800! Too bad that shipping kind of kills the deal to me for just 6 or so rolls, vs passing by their Embassy Store whenever possible.

 

[trendland]

I recall Gold 100 was discontinued due to low demand and they did not cite technical problems, infact I think it had a rather quiet discontinuation. So, the formula may still be very well usable (ie, no extensive R&D overhauls) but Kodak themselves don't want to market it. Similar case for the 800 UltraMAX, not sold on stand alone rolls under Kodak brand.
Lomo comes and contracts manufacturing of 100, 400 and 800 C41 films... Kodak has the formulas and facilities.
Another plausible matter is that the CN100 is Kodacolor 200 downrated, some theory I've read around.

Ektar not being available may be more of a distributor problem. If you dig around the forums about a year or so ago, there was this rather amusing situation of Portra 400 being on backorder almost everywhere due to having ran out the stocks between batch manufacturing. Then the backorders displaced to 400H because people sought it as a substitute, stocks sold out, and that wasn't in Fuji's forecast... At least it didn't mean the too usual low demand reasons that butchered many films.


They have done an Easter sale (check: Still going!) and I guess people have taken quite some stocks. I opened their store (Spanish, Spain) and all three are available. The 800 is at 14,37€ for 3 rolls... Cheap compared to Portra 800! Too bad that shipping kind of kills the deal to me for just 6 or so rolls, vs passing by their Embassy Store whenever possible.

Can't remember it for sure what you stated for "downrated" in regard of
Kodakcolor 200.
But there have been some facts.
What Do you mean? The original KodakGold emmulsion (I know they reformuleted,and changed the Name some times - never mind for this) or do you refer to the "distribution" of Lomo?


with regards

 

[trendland]

And of cause Ektar100 120 comes back.
No doubts at all on this from the beginning.

But some "panic" between.



with regards

 

[Berri]

hey have done an Easter sale (check: Still going!) and I guess people have taken quite some stocks. I opened their store (Spanish, Spain) and all three are available. The 800 is at 14,37€ for 3 rolls... Cheap compared to Portra 800! Too bad that shipping kind of kills the deal to me for just 6 or so rolls, vs passing by their Embassy Store whenever possible.

it says "non esta disponible" on the lomo colour negative 100 120 size. I am interested in this size, I hope they will order some more to whoevere manufacture this film!

 

[Berri]

And of cause Ektar100 120 comes back.
No doubts at all on this from the beginning.

What's with the ektar 100? It seems available at all my regular retailer, is there some shortage?

 

[trendland]

It was temporary not avaible by my local
dealer.
I noticed that some others listed 120 Ektars as "sold out".
This have been allways the beginning of
discontinue for many films in the past.

So as it was here - some speculated if
KODAk discontinue Ektar 120 first and
may be some month later you also have
troubles to get Ektar100 135-36 ?

But KODAk Alaris stated that they will
produce Ektar100 in 120 in the next years.They are not willing discontinue
Ektar in any way.
There have been delivery problems only.

with regards