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My niece and nephew are 3 and 7 respectively-you do need skiploads of patience and be prepared to wear out LOTS of shoe leather following them around. Wideangles can be very useful, as are WLFs for the child's eye viewpoint, though my most used lens is probably a 180 on 6x6.There was one occasion recently when they were fighting over who got to look through the viewfinder of my Mamiya C330...........just handbags luckily. And practice, practice, practice...........I've been doing this sort of work for 7 years now.
 

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For a while, I was an absolute master of the 'follow-focus' technique, even though I had AF. Keep the eye at the viewfinder and follow them as they toddle along. The ordinary is fascinating to young 'uns and it's great to be able to pick that one moment that says it all. I used the Mamiya C330 quite a lot, as follow-focussing with the rack & pinion system is quite easy, as long as you can cope with wrong-way-round viewfinder image. Now my little lad is growing up fast, he's a little more reluctant to be my subject with the result that my focus technique has become a little rusty
 
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It's great to hear from you all, thank you!

There are certainly many aspects to portraiture but I figure that too much emphasis and fear is directed towards the technical. As many of you have mentioned, the connection with the person is very important. If you are struggling with this here are a couple of tips:

1) Forget the camera for the first 1/2 to 1 hour. To avoid the cheesy grins you have to take time to sit and chat, with parents so the kids feel they can trust you and chat with them too, at their height/level. You don't have to be a "natural" or a parent to get good photographs. I'm not a natural parent myself, I don't slot into the motherhood role that easily as others might do. Of course I love my own children dearly and I'm very interested in meeting people of all sizes. Keep the camera handy just in case there's something that grabs your eye for the perfect moment or look. Have a coffee and relax. Don't barge straight into the job.

2) Have Mum and/or Dad organised for a friend or family member to also be there during the session. This way you can suggest Mum and/or Dad to leave the room whilst you are photographing the children. Important - the friend stays in the room somewhere in the background, keeping busy with something totally irrelevant to you. Make sure that the parents and the family member/friend understand this is what you are doing. As parents we know our kids behave so much better for others than ourselves. :smile:

3) The size of the camera is not always the most important aspect unless you know the client wants to order poster sized prints. If your negs are good you should be able to print up to around 30" from a 35mm negative.

4) Finding a market? Just be true to yourself and your own style. People will book you if they have seen your work and love what you do. Don't accept a job unless they have seen your work online on your website or in a portfolio.

Sean, maybe we need a "Column" section? :wink:
 

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I want to know how to make a child portrait that will seem eerily prescient, viewed when they are 30.
 

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I want to know why so many parents what their children to look someone else. And why do people make up small girls so they look like eighty-year olds trying to pass themselves off as teenagers?

If you really want to be scared, buy a copy of "Junior" magazine. I had to wipe my eyes with disinfectant the last time I did.
 

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1. Never tell anyone (children most of all) to smile, just have them say YES. You get a nice smile.

2. Shoot on their turff if you can. Don't shoot a mechanic in a coat and tie in the studio, shoot in the shop when he is real dirty. Coat and tie will be a nice picture, the other will be an heirloom.

3. Develop your own style. The lessons in the lighting books are a great start but let yourself break the damn "rules" and make art YOU love. It might not be for everyone but if it is good clients will find you.
 

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I just ran into this thread a few moments ago, and quickly read through it all. It would be very nice if this grew into a collection of tips, hints, and just good random chatter on the subject. Thanks for starting it, Nicole.

Here's my input: In the last few days I re-did my website, and in the process realized that my best portraits are not in the portraiture session at all. They are all in my documentary portfolios. I read started to read this thread thinking "Hmm, I really could learn how to photograph children", but for some reason I never count my documentary photography as portraiture. If I did, I'd realize I already know how to photograph children. And adults. And elderly adults. So, if my documentary portraiture counts, here's my 2c:

1 - Before you photograph a person, you should be able to carry out an honest (even if brief) conversation with them. Treat them as human beings, and respect them. Don't deceive them, which includes hidden photography and lies in your conversation (strategic behavior should never rule over ethical behavior - this struck me as true even before studying ethics, but now it's more important than ever). By carrying out a conversation (or even just attempting to. sometimes an honest smile, a look in the eye, and/or a nod of the head go a long way), a bond can start to form. Sometimes this leads to good pictures, sometimes to a good chat, and sometimes both. Sometimes, however it leads to neither. Which brings me to

2 - You can't photograph everybody, nor should you. Some people don't want to be photographed, and others you will not want to photograph. To make a portrait of an unwilling subject for the sake of "art" (or money) will prove difficult to justify. As for the person you don't like: taking a photo you don't want might be a reality of business, but in my experience it leads to crummy photography.

Now, as far as posing goes... I've always had a problem with this myself. For my documentary photos it's simple: nothing is posed. For my "portraiture" work, I tell them the most important thing is for them to be comfortable. But I think that Nicole, Cheryl Jacobs, and others, would have better advice than mine on this subject.

In the last couple of weeks I started painting with light, and tried a few portraits. When painting with light, you simply need to pose; no decisive moments stand still for 85 seconds... My solution has been to get the subjects to find a confortable position, and go from there. Last night, my brother, his wife, and her brother wanted me to photograph them. After I told them to be confortable, my brother in law said he'd be more confortable being silly. Great! So silly it was, and a silly picture we got; and it was the best picture of the day.

I've attached two photos to this post. Both are digital photos, but I hope they're ok since they're just illustrating a point. Both are portraits painted with light, and my main concern in both shots, as far as posing went, as to get them as confortable as possible.

Anyway, I hope this post makes some sense. I feel like I've been writing in circles...

André
 

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That's not a portrait, David, that's a still life!!! :D

All kidding aside, as Melchoir starts to move, your cameras may get smaller. I shoot a lot of MF with my kids, and for clients. I've done a bit with a 4x5, but that does take a little er...bribery... I mean careful negotiation with older kids! But well worth the effort!

My seven year old son agreed to sit for me during a 4x5 portrait session. He was very patient - we worked for 4 hours. But I did let him compose and shoot some shots, too. I thanked him and pulled $10 out of my wallet. He asked me how long we had worked, and I replied that we worked just over four hours. He then informed me that his rate is $5 per hour. What could I do other than hand over a $20 bill.
 

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My seven year old son agreed to sit for me during a 4x5 portrait session. He was very patient - we worked for 4 hours. But I did let him compose and shoot some shots, too. I thanked him and pulled $10 out of my wallet. He asked me how long we had worked, and I replied that we worked just over four hours. He then informed me that his rate is $5 per hour. What could I do other than hand over a $20 bill.

:tongue:

Best twenty bucks you've spent in awhile, huh? How about posting the photographs!
 

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Robert - That was a great story!!

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