So, what companies actually coat film?

[PHOTOTONE]

I am glad most of you are unlimited funds to endulge your passions. I for one, really have to watch my expenditures, and when I am absorbing the cost of the film, I look for a bargain, or best price. When I am reselling the work to a paying client, my price structure is built around paying for the best raw materials. That is just the way it is. If I had to pay $11.95 a roll for 35mm color slide film every time I wanted a roll, I would shoot very, very little for my personal art. At $4.95, I can shoot quite a bit more, and at $1.65 I can shooot a whole ton of photos. I prefer to shoot a ton, and bracket.

 

[Dave Parker]

I am glad most of you are unlimited funds to endulge your passions.

So am I, it took me close to 30 years to understand that film is the least of m worries when it comes to the big picture. so I am going to enjoy it! I don't think that most of us have ulimited funds, its just I understand what is important and that is making the image..and when I am away from home base, I don't have to worry about what is in my camera. To be honest with you, I would rather have a cheap box camera and good quality film than the best equipment ever made and have to worry about the film I am going to shoot the image on! A nikon f5 with bad film is worse than a cheap box camera with good film. I just don't understand putting everything you can into the best equipment then having to worry about the film, it don't make much sense to me, I am very happy taking less images and knowing they are going to come out...Kind of reminds me of tripping over dollars to save pennies.. And yes, passion comes into it, but most of all, food on the table is more important to me...

Dave

 

[Photo Engineer]

Dave, I'm 100% in your camp. If you can afford a camera of any type, then buy the best film!

Remember, Lunch or dinner in June!

PE

 

[Dave Parker]

Dave, I'm 100% in your camp. If you can afford a camera of any type, then buy the best film!

Remember, Lunch or dinner in June!

PE

Ron,

Deb and I are looking forward to it, just let me know the day, and we will do it, perhaps even waste some high quality film together for a while as well!

Dave

 

[firecracker]

On the other hand, we have photographers who make art, for arts sake, with no client footing the bills. I am also one of these. For these applications, it is all money out of my meager pocket, and I prefer to economize where I can as long as my "art" doesn't suffer, therefore I look to find the lowest cost versions of the high quality films I prefer to use. Sometimes this is as simple as just purchasing "short dated" film, other times it is a detective novel to decipher what is what in the "rebranded" film genre.

Well, I don't know now, but it used to be that some motion picture labs would sell their leftoever film rolls to whoever wants them at real dicount prices. I belive DuArt in NYC was one of them, and maybe they are still doing it. If you want to do some experiemental work for your art, this will be a good option for you.

 

[PHOTOTONE]

Well, I don't know now, but it used to be that some motion picture labs would sell their leftoever film rolls to whoever wants them at real dicount prices. I belive DuArt in NYC was one of them, and maybe they are still doing it. If you want to do some experiemental work for your art, this will be a good option for you.

No, no. I have all the film I need. I was just curious as to the origins of many films that are marketed by companies that do not themselves have a film coating facility.

My online galleries:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=1281&cat=500

 

[removed account4]

ABSOLUTELY, however the SAME film can be found under several different names, distributed by several different companies, with many different prices asked. The prudent, cost-sensitive photographer can save 1/2 to 3/4 the cost of each roll by purchasing "off brand" film by "knowing" the source of what he is getting.

For instance, Agfa APX-100, while discontinued (due to shut-down of factory) is still widely available in 35mm, and also private label. Sometimes the private label is cheaper. same film. Why not save?

If you could save over $4.00 a roll for Fuji Slide film, by purchasing it rebranded by a distributor, wouldn't you? Same film, different name on
package.

In both examples we are talking about major top line product, just labeled differently. Now, in addition to the above examples, there are many situations where inferior product is purchased in bulk, spooled, packaged and sold as some "esoteric" emulsion. The knowledge of origin can be helpful in this case also, don't you think? Types of film that come to mind are various microfilm stocks, traffic & survellience film stocks, Cine film stocks, etc. Films that originally were quite low in price when purchased in bulk. Knowing the "source" for a particular film stock can help in finding the lowest price.

just a little something extra to think about ..
sometimes it IS the same exact emulsion on a film or paper, but
the private lable film/paper sometimes is aged less or more than
the non private lable stuff ... so it might record information differently.

i don't mind off-brand, but sometimes things aren't always what they seem

 

[bob100684]

just a little something extra to think about ..
sometimes it IS the same exact emulsion on a film or paper, but
the private lable film/paper sometimes is aged less or more than
the non private lable stuff ... so it might record information differently.

i don't mind off-brand, but sometimes things aren't always what they seem

I agree.....for b/w and slides....for CN I'm tottally happy with my Eckerd living color film....aka fuji superia.

 

[jim appleyard]

Some people do make happy and make me laugh and Ole did just that! I wanted express myself and show it!
Do you have a problem with that?

Yes, when it becomes obnoxious.

 

[Ray Heath]

I am glad most of you are unlimited funds to endulge your passions. I for one, really have to watch my expenditures, and when I am absorbing the cost of the film, I look for a bargain, or best price. When I am reselling the work to a paying client, my price structure is built around paying for the best raw materials. That is just the way it is. If I had to pay $11.95 a roll for 35mm color slide film every time I wanted a roll, I would shoot very, very little for my personal art. At $4.95, I can shoot quite a bit more, and at $1.65 I can shooot a whole ton of photos. I prefer to shoot a ton, and bracket.

it's not about unlimited funds, it's about the pricelessness, to me, of what i do

i can't afford lots of imaging, i just make sure what i do counts

so, you shoot a ton and bracket, how's about you learn to shoot a little and make it worthwhile

 

[Henning Serger]

FILMOTEC (aka ORWO): http://www.filmotec.de/

Hallo,

FilmoTec in Wolfen, Germany, is a very modern plant and is expanding. They have developed and produce the Rollei R³, the Rollei Pan 25 and the Rollei Ortho 25 for Maco.
The Rollei Infrared and the Retro 50 Slide Direct are produced by Aga-Gevaert in Belgium for Maco.
The Rollei Retro 100 and 400 are the last masterrolls of the Agfa APX 100 and 400 from AgfaPhoto in Germany.

These are official informations from H. Schroeder, head of Maco Photo Products, published in
- spring 2006 in the german photoforum www.sw-magazin.de
- autumn 2006 in the german photomagazin "Photonews"
- the german photomagazin "Schwarzweiss", issue 54, oct. / nov. 2006

Perhaps there will be another coater of BW-Film and Paper in the near future.
In the online-edition of a german newspaper ("Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger"),
http://www.ksta.de/html/artikel/1162473059286.shtml ,
is an article about a start-up called inoviscoat (www.inoviscoat.de ), founded by former Agfa scientists, coating specialists and photo engineers. According to this article, they have bought some essential parts of the former Agfa film coating machine (K14), and they intend to coat BW-Film and Paper. They said that for their relative small firm the market is big enough. Furthermore, they intend to expand their business (especially their knowledge in coating technology) in the future to pharmaceutical applications (in cooperation with Novartis and Bayer).
We'll see.......

Best regards,
Henning