Silverchrome Selonal?

silvergelatin · Dec 6, 2023

The description makes it sound like it approximates Rodinal. Is this rebranded Ilfosol or a completely different product?

https://ilford.co.jp/photo/product/selonal/

I have yet to develop any film myself since moving to Japan, but I'm not thrilled with lab-developed b/w. Looking around, it seems my old trusty Rodinal is hard to come by, so I'm seeking alternatives that are available here.

Dustin McAmera · Dec 6, 2023

The times for HP5 are the same as those Harman give for Agfa Rodinal. I'd give it a go. With this name, are they trying to evoke the Selo films? I like that.

silvergelatin · Dec 6, 2023

Dustin McAmera said:
The times for HP5 are the same as those Harman give for Agfa Rodinal. I'd give it a go. With this name, are they trying to evoke the Selo films? I like that.

I might as well try it out. Just have to find a stainless tank, which is shockingly difficult, at least online. I'll have to hunt a bit.

fs999 · Dec 7, 2023

It seems to be a Harman site with rebranded products for Japan. Look at top right a link to "English Site by Harman Technology"...

silvergelatin · Dec 7, 2023

fs999 said:
It seems to be a Harman site with rebranded products for Japan. Look at top right a link to "English Site by Harman Technology"...

No equivalent product on the English site, it seems.

koraks · Dec 7, 2023

silvergelatin said:
it seems my old trusty Rodinal is hard to come by, so I'm seeking alternatives that are available here.

If they sell paracetamol, sodium hydroxide and sulfite over there, you could make your own.

Dustin McAmera · Dec 7, 2023

If you look at the pdf for Selonal, it's made by Chugai Photochemical, who I think are part of the Ilford Imaging group (i.e. not Harman).

silvergelatin · Dec 7, 2023

koraks said:
If they sell paracetamol, sodium hydroxide and sulfite over there, you could make your own.

Trying to keep life simple

miha · Dec 7, 2023

Dustin McAmera said:
If you look at the pdf for Selonal, it's made by Chugai Photochemical, who I think are part of the Ilford Imaging group (i.e. not Harman).

I think so, too. Anyway, we had a thread on SILVERCHROME products a couple of years ago: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/new-own-brand-paper-from-germany.171453/

lamerko · Dec 7, 2023

It seems the composition is like that of Rodinal. The Japanese are an interesting people - they even listed water in the composition...

Ian Grant · Dec 7, 2023

It's been around for sometime, a Japanese chemical Chuggi Photo Chemical company bought the rights to the Ilford name off the receivers of Ilford Imaging in Switzerland.

Ilford did make their own version of Rodinal, Certinal, which they introduced around 1907 and discontinued late 1950s. Although Mees worked on a similar developer while at Wratten & Wainwright Kodak didn't make an equivalent Kodinol until just after WWII, made by Kodak Ltd here in the UK and never sold in the US.

Ian

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