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Should we use expired film or it's garbage ?

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I like to shoot 127 film. I've got a collection of 4x4 TLRs and love shooting them. I can get fresh HP5 in the Ilford "ULF" sale but color has been hard to find. Some years back I bought several 100-foot rolls of 46mm (that's the correct width for 127) color stock that was used by a portrait photographer in a special camera that shot super-wide frames and had a motor drive, for school portrait sessions. I'm still shooting that film and I get generally good results, especially from a roll of Agfa XPS 160 film that expired in 2001.
 
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They are opportunistic parasites, IMO.

if people buy-it, like-it and buy-more, how is person an opportunistic parasite? just giving someone what-they-want, what-they-expect makes person a opportunistic parasite?
are people who hard-core bad-poured all their wet collodion plates during the 2000s collodionsilver rush parasites too?
 
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Not a lot of my frozen film [Velvia, Provia] stock is expired, but I know some certainly is.
No big deal. If you scan-to-web or scan-to-print, it is easy to correct obvious anomalies in post, maybe not so easy in the darkroom, but it is not a hang-up or disincentive whenever images are being prep'd for print or web and correction, including post-scan step compensation, is required.
 

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If I had to pay new-film prices to learn how to shoot LF, I wouldn't have dived hard into LF. Wait a minute, if I had to pay new-film prices to figure out home development, I wouldn't have done that either. And yes, Panatomic X rocks (I have 1 box of 8x10 PanX I'm saving for a special occasion...). Verichrome Pan is pretty reliable too, if it's newer than 1979 or so.
 

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Should it be used or is it garbage?

I'd far rather someone have fun experimenting with expired film than throwing it away.

That said, the real answer is "it depends". Most of us will have used B&W film a decade or two expired and found that it's performing as new, or certainly good enough to shoot at box speed or one stop over exposed and still get excellent negatives. Some films such as Verichrome Pan seem to be indestructible.

In all other cases, including colour film more than a decade expired and very old B&W film....it can be a crap shoot. It can also be fun trying. And one can get a sense of satisfaction from getting any kind of image from film 50+ years old.

Other than the recent Analogue Wonderland film, which was clearly advertised as a gimmick to celebrate their anniversary....which very expired films are respooled and sold as a specific product? I'm not familiar with that segment of the market. But clearly there's demand.

And it absolutely can be an artistic choice to shoot with expired film. I personally don't like expired colour film beyond 5 years it's date as I'm not a fan of the colour shifts. But others are, and that's totally cool. Additionally, I know some colour films are fine 10-15 years expired. My local shop discovered some proper Agfa Vista in it's basement 5 years ago, and I snapped it up at £1 a roll because I knew it would be fine. And it was.

I wouldn't say that aged film is imbued with magical properties, but it is different to fresh film. And there are people who want to work with that....so why not let them? It does nobody any harm....regardless of whether they find it in an attic or buy it from a vendor who's acquired a warehouse of the stuff. If someone gets something out of shooting it, that's far better than dumping it in the rubbish.
 
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