Aggie said:What good is a vision and technique, if what you intended was not what others see?
Hello Frank.Aside from technical considerations, how valid is it to suggest changes to someone else's images? Isn't that just saying, "Your vision is flawed. My vision is superior?"
Yes all the time, but on internet websites comments more about camera or style not right type and not real photographs.Aside from technical considerations, how valid is it to suggest changes to someone else's images? Isn't that just saying, "Your vision is flawed. My vision is superior?"
Frank you raise interesting points. Everyone's view and preferences are different. However, if someone asks for a review, then give it. Sometimes, we miss something that other's pick up. Sometimes it's just nice to know what others think. Sometimes it's just nice to get an "atta boy" to let us know that we're on the right path.Aside from technical considerations, how valid is it to suggest changes to someone else's images? Isn't that just saying, "Your vision is flawed. My vision is superior?"
Isn't all we can say, "My vision matches your vision of a particular image and therefore I like it," or "My vision does not match your vision of this image and therefore I think it can be improved to more closely match what I think it should look like,"?
Even some technical issues are personal. For example, for a particular image, some people prefer a darker printing treatment, some like grain, soft contrast, filed neg carriers, blur, or even out-of-focus subjects.
(BTW, I'm not posting this as a response to anyone's criticism of my images, this post was brought about by my examination of my desire to critique others' images.)
It does make me feel good when people whose photos I like, also like mine, but it could well be that a particular image resonates in me due to my peculiar history/experiences/influences that leaves someone else unstirred. That does not make it an unsuccessful image, unless the only reason I took it was to have others like it.
Anyone have views on this topic?
Frank S.
Should one pretend to be blind?Should one judge other's photos?
Of course you judge. But do you share it with the creator? How well do you know him or her? Especially if the work sucks. A good art school critique would leave most of the participants crying.Should one pretend to be blind?
just me?
It worked - our test to see if people are reading the threads before posting is a resounding success!Is it just me? -- reading down this necro-thread is like scrambled eggs, there are signature lines not matching the poster and all sorts of seemingly unrelated stuff up there!
Of course you judge. But do you share it with the creator? How well do you know him or her? Especially if the work sucks. A good art school critique would leave most of the participants crying.
Aye, sometimes I'm easily suckered!!!It worked - our test to see if people are reading the threads before posting is a resounding success!
I'll flag it for Sean's attention
When I was teaching I was strict and judgmental with students; I expected them to be 'well read' with respect to photographic and art history and critiqued work based on historically recognized photographic movements and images.
These days, (seeing tiny cliche snapshot on friend's iPhone) 'Yes, that is nice...maybe you can upload it to the internet'
Friend: 'Already uploaded...'
You don't have to be an expert to say if you like a photo or not and what you like about it. An engaging photo with great content and lighting is appreciated by most people. Do you have to be a composer to enjoy good music? I was watching this 15 year-old Russian ice skater. She was amazing. I know nothing about the sport. But you can see she was smooth, relaxed, perfect, and graceful, with no mistakes.Sure one can judge another's photograph. The questions are whether or not that one should open his or her mouth. Is that one qualified to speak about composition, exposure, development or printing or spouting off without knowledge?
Knowledge of photographic history does not preclude ignoring it in one's photos. Although you can go against the grain or break the rules without knowing the rules, if one is a student of photography one should know what came before to begin with.And if a photo wasn’t “based on historically recognized photographic movements and images”?
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