Back then you still had those leaflets from both, film and processing chemicals, manufacturers, and could chose from a variety of combos. Now you got manufacturers with weird websites and got weird forums.
A $30 sous vide covers temperature to 0.5F at near zero effort. The hardest part for me is getting the pour-out time right to get exact development time, but I find that plus or minus ten seconds in getting the stop bath in doesn't seem to have much effect. Then again, I can't look at a negative and tell it's got crossover like some folks can.
I set mine to 104 because temps were dropping way to fast and I ruined over 20 rolls before I figured out what the problem was. I've done better without a sous vide.
Ditto. For this volume of film I'd just use a lab and save the hassle, extra kit, storage, etc.@kikcburluna TBH for only 8-10 rolls per year, I would continue to use labs. By developing film yourself you'll be saving only maybe $40-50 per year, at the cost of waiting longer to see the results (you need to collect several rolls to run a batch) with some reduction of quality due to long-term chemical storage and reuse.
Good grief, do you develop in a walk-in meat locker? I set mine to the 102F recommended in the Cinestill instructions (which I presume is intended to allow for a drop during processing, perhaps as far as to 98F, giving an average of 100F) -- and haven't checked the tank temperature just before pouring out (or the developer just after) because my hands are kind of full at that point. But you must have a far better eye than I ever will if a couple degrees difference in color developer temperature will ruin your film. I do put the developing tank in the tempering bath between agitations at least part of the time, however. I also pre-wash with tempering water, mainly to bring the tank and film up to temperature before pouring the developer.
Still simpler than B&W in terms of knowledge required vs. results, IMO. When I learned to develop film, it was another story -- we had C-22, and there weren't any two-part kits (color dev and blix); I recall C-22 as having something like a dozen steps including four or five water washes, and a formalin-infused stabilizer was mandatory or the colors wouldn't show. We did process E-4 once when I was in high school (fourteen or so steps), had a horse trough and three camp coolers filled with tempering water for all the bottles and graduates and tanks (student rolls, enough to use up the whole kit, as I recall). They used to tell new photographers not to even bother trying to learn color, just stick with black and white or let the lab do your color for you. Now, IMO, color is no harder than black and white, and might be easier (again, in terms of needing to learn one process -- same for all compatible films).
For what it's worth I DSLR scan so color shifts are a much bigger problem than if I used a scanner.
Took me a second to make sense out of that, having never done a DSLR scan. I guess you mean, because you're "off label" for the DSLR and it doesn't have the automatic inversion and color balancing/correction you'd get from scanner software.
So far, my experience is that a consistent process yields consistent results.
Do you start the timer right AFTER you finished pouring developer into a tank?
Do you start pouring developer out 10 seconds ahead i.e. @3:05 or exactly at 3:15?
But you must have a far better eye than I ever will if a couple degrees difference in color developer temperature will ruin your film.
rightly or wrongly and I believe wrongly, forums can give the impression that
@Sirius Glass well... I have underdeveloped my first 9 rolls. Very consistently. Trying to determine if this was due to poor temperature control or due to me pouring out the developer too early.
7 Euros seems fair for film development. Where I live, I have to mail the film out and have to pay postage both ways. With low film volumes, I would not recommend home development unless you really enjoy the development process.
Until you shoot enough film where you can justify developing every 3 months or so, there are really very few savings.
If you really want to try developing film, try B&W first. All you need is a tank, a measuring cup, a thermometer, and some long-lasting chemicals (you would need all of these for color anyway). A small bottle of Rodinal lasts almost forever. Stop last a long time, and B&W fixer is cheap and lasts for months in working dilutions and even longer at full strength. There is no rush with most B&W chemicals and you can shoot at your leisure. If you find you enjoy this, you will likely shoot more film, and eventually shoot enough color film to make home development efficient.
I've wanted to try developing at home for years. While 8-10 rolls per year is about normal for me right now, I would like to shoot more, say a couple per month. I had hoped to develop at home for a few reasons, those being pure enjoyment, gaining a new skill, and saving money. I did a search here on the forum for chemical shelf life because I don't want to spend $X, develop a few rolls, and have it go bad on the shelf. This thread has scared the crap out of me and now I'm wondering if I even want to give it a shot. Sounds like there's a lot more room for failure than I anticipated. Sounds so easy...
I've wanted to try developing at home for years. While 8-10 rolls per year is about normal for me right now, I would like to shoot more, say a couple per month. I had hoped to develop at home for a few reasons, those being pure enjoyment, gaining a new skill, and saving money. I did a search here on the forum for chemical shelf life because I don't want to spend $X, develop a few rolls, and have it go bad on the shelf. This thread has scared the crap out of me and now I'm wondering if I even want to give it a shot. Sounds like there's a lot more room for failure than I anticipated. Sounds so easy...
All is not lost!I've wanted to try developing at home for years. While 8-10 rolls per year is about normal for me right now, I would like to shoot more, say a couple per month. I had hoped to develop at home for a few reasons, those being pure enjoyment, gaining a new skill, and saving money. I did a search here on the forum for chemical shelf life because I don't want to spend $X, develop a few rolls, and have it go bad on the shelf. This thread has scared the crap out of me and now I'm wondering if I even want to give it a shot. Sounds like there's a lot more room for failure than I anticipated. Sounds so easy...
It is not that hard to do what you want. You need a changing bag, scissors, a tank, reels, developer [XTOL is a cheap one], stop bath with indicator [again cheap], hypo aka fixer [again cheap], some clothes pins, some nylon to hang the film. It is as easy as learning to fall off a motor cycle.
I'm not sure what exactly you read in this thread that scared the crap out of you.
.05 seconds, start the pour at 10? End it at 10? Tank doesn't pour fast enough? Preheat tank, don't worry about preheating tank. Temp is critical. Don't worry about the temp dropping a few degrees. (some of this may be from another thread I found)
What are you so scared of? I'm cheap, don't want to waste the money.
Well see, that's the thing. I learned how to fall off motorcycles when I was 9. I might also point out that a good part of your post appears to be written in Latin, or possibly Romulan.
Maybe it's because I've not yet read a set of instructions.
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