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Here is a shot I took with my RZ67 and Velvia 50 a few weeks back. Something doesn't seem right to me about it color wise, I just can't figure it out. Can some one maybe help me out? RZ67, 110/2.8, 1/2 sec @ ƒ/22, ND3 and Pol filters. Nothing has been done to the image except a level adjustment. And yes, the water was really that color.

Cliff Walk Waterfall.jpg
 

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So what's wrong there? How can we know what are the true colors or accurate colors? You said the water color was as that in your shot, so why complaining?

Are you sure those filters are good high quality? I did use some filters and they throw some color cast on my shots, did you test shot without filters to see?

I did shoot Velvia 50 with my RZ and 50mm and i used only Pol filter, i didn't like the shots not even one, so give it a try without any filter and see the difference.
 

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Personally, the crooked angle bothers me more than the color.
 

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Only you can say what's right, but you could try making a ring around, moving the color balance in each direction from where you are now, then you can compare and find what works.
 
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Personally, the crooked angle bothers me more than the color.

That's the correct angle, the rock was angled towards the left.

As for the filters they are the same Tiffen filters I've been using for the last few years.

Maybe I'm being a little too critical here
 

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There are some situations when Velvia just doesn't look right. Perhaps, less exposure would have helped the shot?
 

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Hi Shootar401

Your image looks fine to me; polarising filters intensify colours and reduce reflections. I assume it was taken in shadow, where the colour temperature is much higher (bluer) than that in sunshine. The blue colour cast on the rocks and the waterfall is reflected from the sky; this isn't always obvious to our eyes because our brains are so good at compensating for colour casts etc. Does the scan agree with the original transparency? Perhaps your monitor needs a colour balance check. it's easy to overlook these things.

It's a fine image - you should be pleased with it.

Cheers,
kevs
 

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I think you are suffering with a common Velvia problem that scanning not only adds more saturation (mostly due to an increase in contrast) but also the interaction of flourescent light sources with the dyes in Velvia can create a magenta bias (or a bad icc profile possibly).

This is evident in a couple of places, firstly in the extreme cyans that would have been bluey-greens in the original subject matter and secondly in the colour cast in the small waterfall.

I've had a play with the image to get it looking how I would want it (not necessarily how it *should* be or how you might want it).

Firstly a reduction in saturation.

1.jpg

and secondly a reduction in magenta and a neutralisation of some of the extreme cold cast from the blue sky

2.jpg

Also, Velvia does shift rich blues toward cyan in the highlights and so it's always useful to underexpose a little when shooting something that will have very bright, rich blues.

Hope this helps or at least adds a little useful to the thread.
 

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Looks OK to me, it's a tad purple (on my un-calibrated, cheap monitor), but Velvia will do that. I think it looks good.
 
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I think you are suffering with a common Velvia problem that scanning not only adds more saturation (mostly due to an increase in contrast) but also the interaction of flourescent light sources with the dyes in Velvia can create a magenta bias (or a bad icc profile possibly).

This is evident in a couple of places, firstly in the extreme cyans that would have been bluey-greens in the original subject matter and secondly in the colour cast in the small waterfall.

I've had a play with the image to get it looking how I would want it (not necessarily how it *should* be or how you might want it).

Firstly a reduction in saturation.

View attachment 51468

and secondly a reduction in magenta and a neutralisation of some of the extreme cold cast from the blue sky

View attachment 51470

Also, Velvia does shift rich blues toward cyan in the highlights and so it's always useful to underexpose a little when shooting something that will have very bright, rich blues.

Hope this helps or at least adds a little useful to the thread.

Thanks for the tips!
 
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