Shooting film in a digital world-a mini documentary

[Sean]

I'll get some links to it, stand by..

 

[Sean]

Ok, I have added 2 links. 1 link in the main forums list, and another notice "sticky" thread in the Alt. Process group. I'll continue some new investigating on unifying user accounts between APUG & DPUG.

 

[lxdude]

I think it would be a good idea to have in the header area at the top, a box saying something about visiting sister site DPUG for hybrid processes.

 

[dwross]

Excellent. Thank you, Sean.

Question: Do you know if there is a moderator for the group? gr82bart hasn't been around for long while. I can't imagine it's necessary that it be a private group.

 

[lxdude]

I think that ann is still a moderator.

 

[dwross]

I think that ann is still a moderator.

Perhaps, but the group appears inactive. It's set up to be private, so you need permission to join, but is anyone in the position to give that permission? I submitted yesterday and nothing yet. Even with active moderation, it won't work as a discussion forum if newcomers can't easily get in. Does anyone know why it was established as a private group? If it's an "adults only" reason, we should be clear about that. I get the sense we have some quite young new members. Also, people who participate here while at work.

 

[Bob Carnie]

I have always been considered very childish , so how do I get in.

Perhaps, but the group appears inactive. It's set up to be private, so you need permission to join, but is anyone in the position to give that permission? I submitted yesterday and nothing yet. Even with active moderation, it won't work as a discussion forum if newcomers can't easily get in. Does anyone know why it was established as a private group? If it's an "adults only" reason, we should be clear about that. I get the sense we have some quite young new members. Also, people who participate here while at work.

 

[dwross]

I have always been considered very childish , so how do I get in.

It has occurred to me that is the reason I haven't been approved yet.

I hope the Group (or Sean, et al) can remove the "private" designation and its hoops. For the life of me I can't imagine any good reason to not have it as open as almost all the other groups.

 

[Alan Klein]

Film printing?

Meanwhile...

How about Bob's request that APUG welcome digital negatives into the fold? Perhaps we could rebrand? I like "hybrid" just fine, but maybe another name would offer a fresh start. "Integrated Printing" (?) That's not quite right, but something along those lines. Constrain the discussions to one sub-forum and anyone who wants to can ignore the subject.

 

[Bob Carnie]

Well for example I make enlarged silver film for contact processes including silver prints.

Film printing?

 

[frank]

I just watched this video, and I love everything about it. It is positive and affirming of what I do and what I'm about.

Some of the things said are technically nonsense and inaccurate, but these photographers are searching for words and ways to convey their emotions, and they sometimes fall short, but they are speaking from the heart.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

This has been discussed at length. In a nutshell... [snip...] I decided to upset the minority by aligning APUG strictly to it's original charter.

A belated* thanks from me (and that majority as well) for this unequivocal clarification, Sean. If we lose that charter focus, we lose everything that makes this site unique. And thus makes it a draw to so many of those who still have analog photography knowledge and expertise to pass along to the next generation.

Without a place to share that unique knowledge and expertise, analog photography truly does run the risk of extinction. Not because we weren't able to get film any longer, but because no one knew what to do with it after they did.

Ken

* Cross-country flight yesterday...

 

[MDR]

Thank you sean this sounds like an acceptable solution.

 

[Truzi]

There are few forums like this for film photography, and I appreciate the efforts to keep it film-centered. It would otherwise be too difficult to find information I'm looking for. The only interest I have in digital right now is how to get a decent scan of a negative, but seeing as I'm close to having a bathroom/darkroom arrangement, it's not terribly important to me at this point.

 

[frank]

There are countless sites to discuss digital photography and hybrid photography.
APUG is a treasure. Thank you Sean for protecting it as is.

 

[Wayne]

Exactly. Thank you Sean

There are countless sites to discuss digital photography and hybrid photography.
APUG is a treasure. Thank you Sean for protecting it as is.

 

[Sean]

Hi All,

I have adjusted the group so it is "public", I have approved accounts stuck in limbo.

Thanks

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

For me, as long as the image originates on film, there after I don't care.

Right there with you.

 

[adelorenzo]

I just watched this video, and I love everything about it. It is positive and affirming of what I do and what I'm about.

Some of the things said are technically nonsense and inaccurate, but these photographers are searching for words and ways to convey their emotions, and they sometimes fall short, but they are speaking from the heart.

This sums up my thoughts exactly. Thanks for posting Frank, I couldn't say it any better myself.

 

[removed account4]

was the video shot on film too ?

 

[blockend]

was the video shot on film too ?

That was my first thought when this film came out. I'm betting on a Canon 5D mk II/III. Film has a different look to digital without lots of editing, and in medium format (and larger) is way cheaper for great IQ. Everything else is debatable.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

was the video shot on film too ?

Does it really matter?

It's advertising. Film advertising. Eastman Kodak film advertising. And very effective advertising at that. They're trying to cast the few remaining EK film products in a positive light. Instead of publicly blowing up film-related buildings and infrastructure for the benefit of Wall Street analysts and the media.

I don't understand the cynicism. I don't understand how this can be in any way bad. Hideously late in the game, perhaps. But not bad.

Ken

 

[blockend]

Does it really matter?

In my opinion it's fundamental. If the mood of the piece is visually inspired, it suggests that digital can create that mood, rendering much of what the interviewees say superfluous. I enjoy any discussion that promotes the use of film, but feel Kodak could have gone the extra mile and provided movie film stock to underline the comparison. If they say that's too complicated and expensive, they're looking at a heap load of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Wayne]

Yeah, and for logical consistency it should have been posted on the analog internet too.

 

[removed account4]

hail mary ?

13 years too late