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Been years I've been wanting to shoot around Jakarta (Indonesia) and its satellite cities. Started around 5 years ago with a self-project called shoot Jakarta, and its basically a street photography around Jakarta from my personal cameras. But its been hiatus for 3 years due to my job.



a month ago I finally got my hands on Yashica Electro 35 gsn and Fuji MDL-5, and restarted the self-project again. Hopefully, I can take some photos every weekend. Hope you guys like it.

Update on my 1st roll : most of results are overexposure, getting my yashica fixed.

Update on my 2nd roll with Fuji MDL-5 (35MM F5.6)+ Ilford HP5 400. I don't know if its my camera fault, or the workshop who process the film fault. Most of my photo under the sun were under expose + over grainy (see picture 3). But under the shed was perfect. Here are some result

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Glodok, Jakarta July 2017. Fuji MDL-5 + Ilford HP5

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Glodok, Jakarta July 2017. Fuji MDL-5 + Ilford HP5

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Kota Tua, Jakarta July 2017. Fuji MDL-5 + Ilford HP5


Will upload some more.
 

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Nice market shots.

Good work overall. You are doing well with what are really a quite basic cameras, but with excellent lenses.

Your Kota Tua shot could have been taken in 1900. Nice parchment effect. I am curious as to what that image looks like without the texture.

I went to and photographed in markets around Asia for many years. Until I finally realised the pasars (Indonesian for markets) are basically our grocery stores.

Have you thought about expanding your shooting? Jakarta offers so much to those brave enough to go out and try to capture something more - well, controversial.

The danger with shooting markets and other such 'safe' places, is that one can easily fall into the trap of doing stereotypical 'chocolate box' imagery. It is entirely too easy to fall into this trap and end up shooting only the superficial surface stuff.

I recently visited the Tanjung Priok docks, the Old Port, and the area around the old Portuguese fort. Many changes in the three places. I hadn't been to the latter since the 1990s. Amazed, alarmed, even horrified at the changes. Rising ocean levels have done incredible damage. Many coastal villages in Java are suffering the same fate. Some have had to be abandoned due to flooding. The Al-Jazeera network did a detailed report on this recently. It's a very serious problem.

I was particularly dismayed with what I saw around the old Portuguese fort area. Eventually the entire area may have to be abandoned, businesses and homes relocated, inundated buildings demolished. Costs will be astronomical. Nothing appears to have been done so far. I hope that will change.

Some exceptionally good opportunities for documentary type images in those places. Much valuable photography to be done.

If I lived in Jakarta, I would be down there regularly, shooting before it all disappears.

You are fortunate to be (I am assuming here) living in Jakarta. If I did, I would be walking the old city areas in a flash. Pun intended.

Again, good work.
 
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Hi Ozmoose, thanks for the input

Good work overall. You are doing well with what are really a quite basic cameras, but with excellent lenses.

Your Kota Tua shot could have been taken in 1900. Nice parchment effect. I am curious as to what that image looks like without the texture.

>> it is a basic point and shoot camera. well, I actually it was my first camera. Bought in at a supermarket! lol. the battery corrosion damage the electrical receiver, so I can only depend on it without any flash. Got some new manual cameras (Olympus ee-2), but I think I'll try to get used to this camera and film first.
About my Kota Tua shot, I actually don't know whats happening. The picture was taken on a bright sunlight! I was thinking maybe the workshop develop the film in a wrong way. I don't know. Since I found liquid stains on some of slide, I assume that this is the workshop fault. I know I should have develop it my self, since maybe there's only 5-6 workshops in Jakarta who can actually develop film.

I recently visited the Tanjung Priok docks, the Old Port, and the area around the old Portuguese fort. Many changes in the three places. I hadn't been to the latter since the 1990s. Amazed, alarmed, even horrified at the changes. Rising ocean levels have done incredible damage. Many coastal villages in Java are suffering the same fate. Some have had to be abandoned due to flooding. The Al-Jazeera network did a detailed report on this recently. It's a very serious problem.

I was particularly dismayed with what I saw around the old Portuguese fort area. Eventually the entire area may have to be abandoned, businesses and homes relocated, inundated buildings demolished. Costs will be astronomical. Nothing appears to have been done so far. I hope that will change.

>> Haven't go to Tanjung Priok yet, the portuguese fort was actually new to me. Haven't heard that before. I hope its still there, since 1990s Jakarta development was so massive. I'm afraid some heritage was already demolished.
But yes, the rising ocean levels has done a lot of damage in Jakarta. Flood in Jakarta coastal area was kinda routine in here. The current local government was actually trying to relocate some of people from there, and build ocean wall around it. However, some local organizations and politics was against it in the name of humanity (aaah, politics). And after 2017 elections, the elected governor already promise not to relocate those people.

Did you know? this people has already occupy some heritage bastion in PASAR IKAN! thats why the current local government try to relocate them. at first it was a success, but due to heavy pressure from politics and social media they came back gradually.

its such a shame the current governor loss the election, since 2009 I regularly hanging around kota tua (fatahillah square), Sunda Kelapa port, and I do see A lot of positive change to keep the heritage.

Some exceptionally good opportunities for documentary type images in those places. Much valuable photography to be done.

If I lived in Jakarta, I would be down there regularly, shooting before it all disappears.

>> it is, thats why I'm planning to go around the old area (mostly north, west, and central Jakarta) to show what kind of Jakarta is, and also to get the feeling of Jakarta heritage.
 
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Oops... I also meant to say, welcome to APUG, but I got so involved in your photos and what you had to say, I quite forgot. So here it is - welcome to APUG!

I am now out of Indonesia and in Malaysia (so hello from Ipoh, Perak), so I will get back to you with a response to your many interesting comments, in the near future.

Old(er) cameras tend to malfunction now and then. If the shutter goes wonky on you, as long as the sharpness is okay, you will be fine. Wildly over- or under-exposed negatives are a bummer to work with in the darkroom, but in that processing 'medium' we aren't supposed to talk about in this forum, lest the fanatically analog Nazis turn their Rottweilers loose on us, many small miracles are possible, so you will be fine.

Think of all the wonderful things in Jakarta you can photograph with so little effort! An amazing place. Surabaya where I hang out, is a parish by comparison.

Anyway, later, shortly. Meantimes, keep on shooting!
 
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Been a while haven post in APUG. I was too busy at my work. This is some of the result from my second roll film using KODAK Color Plus 200.

Bank Indonesia Museum
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Fatahillah Square
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Tebet Train Station
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Some random streetshoot near Fatahillah Square
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Jakarta Kota Train Station, one of the oldest train station in Jakarta
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I'm currently looking for developer tank and liquid (also a scanner) to develop the film myself. Since only 3 workshop in Jakarta who can do film and it takes them 5 days to develop and scan it.
I'm also has my eyes to new analog camera such as M6 or budget friendly like Canonet/Ricoh. Hopefully I can get them soon :smile:

Oops... I also meant to say, welcome to APUG, but I got so involved in your photos and what you had to say, I quite forgot. So here it is - welcome to APUG!

I am now out of Indonesia and in Malaysia (so hello from Ipoh, Perak), so I will get back to you with a response to your many interesting comments, in the near future.

Old(er) cameras tend to malfunction now and then. If the shutter goes wonky on you, as long as the sharpness is okay, you will be fine. Wildly over- or under-exposed negatives are a bummer to work with in the darkroom, but in that processing 'medium' we aren't supposed to talk about in this forum, lest the fanatically analog Nazis turn their Rottweilers loose on us, many small miracles are possible, so you will be fine.

Think of all the wonderful things in Jakarta you can photograph with so little effort! An amazing place. Surabaya where I hang out, is a parish by comparison.

Anyway, later, shortly. Meantimes, keep on shooting!

Hi Ozmoose! just find a spare time to get into the forum now.. So you're from ipoh. I vist KL pretty frequently, most of my families stays there now.
 

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Been a while haven post in APUG. I was too busy at my work. This is some of the result from my second roll film using KODAK Color Plus 200.

Bank Indonesia Museum
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Fatahillah Square
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Tebet Train Station
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Some random streetshoot near Fatahillah Square
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Jakarta Kota Train Station, one of the oldest train station in Jakarta
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I'm currently looking for developer tank and liquid (also a scanner) to develop the film myself. Since only 3 workshop in Jakarta who can do film and it takes them 5 days to develop and scan it.
I'm also has my eyes to new analog camera such as M6 or budget friendly like Canonet/Ricoh. Hopefully I can get them soon :smile:



Hi Ozmoose! just find a spare time to get into the forum now.. So you're from ipoh. I vist KL pretty frequently, most of my families stays there now.
good work... try to go to Sunda Kelapa Harbor, you'll find interesting traditional harbor activity
 

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Hello there,

I really like your 3 shots you posted! I also love Jakarta and have been there twice for business, shooting a couple of rolls both times.
If you don't mind, I'd post a few once I had time to print them.

Keep up the good work and enjoy that wonderful city!
Ben
 
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Hello there,

I really like your 3 shots you posted! I also love Jakarta and have been there twice for business, shooting a couple of rolls both times.
If you don't mind, I'd post a few once I had time to print them.

Keep up the good work and enjoy that wonderful city!
Ben

Hi Bence. Sure!! you can share you post in here. The spirit of Shoot Jakarta Project is actually to show what kind of city Jakarta is, and how people live in Jakarta.

good work... try to go to Sunda Kelapa Harbor, you'll find interesting traditional harbor activity

Hi Ian! yes Sunda Kelapa will be indeed! was there around 2010 during my digital age. LOL!!!! How is the harbor now? When I went there, it was so dirty.
 

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Hi Bence. Sure!! you can share you post in here. The spirit of Shoot Jakarta Project is actually to show what kind of city Jakarta is, and how people live in Jakarta.



Hi Ian! yes Sunda Kelapa will be indeed! was there around 2010 during my digital age. LOL!!!! How is the harbor now? When I went there, it was so dirty.
never been there... i still busy with my ECN-2 local lab
someday i'll shoot Sunda Kelapa with Vision3 Film
 

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Hi Bence. Sure!! you can share you post in here. The spirit of Shoot Jakarta Project is actually to show what kind of city Jakarta is, and how people live in Jakarta.

Thanks a lot - will need to print them up first and then come back here to post.
I have been to Sunda Kelapa and found it fascinating. I didn't have too much time but did take a few snaps. Basically it was pretty clean (2016 October) but there were some people bugging me to take a ride with their boats which I refused. Thinking back I should have taken the boats as I've later seen they took people over to the other side of the harbor across the water where people seemed to be living on small houses suspended above the water standing on columns. Next time!

Happy shooting.
Ben

Edit: Another part of Jakarta I really enjoyed was Palmera - the part that is built around the rail-tracks. Basically people live on both sides of the rail-track without any protection and the trains come and go zooming by at relatively high speeds. Very interesting and good sights to be seen.
 
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Yes, hit those streets, shoot away, and keep on shooting. Your image will be very valuable socio-historical records, in the not-too-distant future, when it all changes and what you have recorded on film or pixels becomes past.

Another important aspect of recording and showing your images from the streets, is the photos can be a useful tool to promote social changes and improvements in conditions and facilities. As we know, there is more than enough money in Indonesia to do many more things than are now being done. Sadly, the money is being mismanaged, and there doesn't seem to be the will, either politically or publicly, to change things.

Sodark1828 (#3), what you say about Ahok is so spot-on,I agree with everything you wrote. Sad that he is now in prison, such a great talent and poltiical force languishing behind bars and wasted. Even sadder that Jokowi did so little if anything to try to diffuse the situation, obviously from his usual fear of offending anyone. Leadership was sadly lacking in this situation. Let us hope and pray that Ahok will be released soon. Indonesia needs people like him to move it forward.

I went to Palmera many years ago and also shot many memorable images there, on slide film. Used a Leica M2 and sneaked around taking grab shots of people living their everyday lives. I see the same scenes even now, in Surabaya, along the rail lines between Gubeng station and Kota in the city center or to Sidotopo where the old (Dutch colonial era) locomotive works are still in use. In some places along the tracks, when the trains come along (fortunately they don't travel at fast speeds), there is less than one meter of free space between train and houses.

All this will disappear eventually. Most Surabayans won't miss it, if indeed they even know it exists.

I'm now in Sarawak, shooting with my Nikon D700 kit and a 1966 Rolleicord Vb I bought recently, with B&W film and a 16 exposure kit. Ten, twenty, thirty years ago it would have been a Nikkormat 35mm kit and a Rolleiflex. Times pass, things (and photo gear) change. The 'cord kit is getting heavier to carry around. I had six rolls of film processed in a small Chinese studio here last week, and was amazed at the beautiful negatives I got back, even if the studio owner did them in print developer. The negs look good. I hope they print or scan as nicely.

Everyone uses phones now as cameras. Mirrorless compacts also. Not many DSLRs. I almost never see anyone with a film camera out of Singapore or KL, maybe as film is impossible to get locally and it costs too much per image to be economically viable. People tend to stare at me when I use the Rolleicord, but as I use the waist level finder and I don't lift the camera to my eyes to shoot with as I do the Nikon, they quickly lose interest and go about their business. I get better shots then.

I may return to Surabaya in November or December. There are many nice places in East Java I want to revisit, not having seen them since the 1980s. Malang was then a quite compact, quiet, cool and relaxing place. Now it's fast becoming another Indonesian city, tho' by no means as crowded, congested and polluted as is my usual hangout, Surabaya. Life in Malang doesn't take place so much in shopping malls as it does in 'boyo, but then it's cooler in Malang, and locals can hang out in the great outdoors without being cooked by the sun and the heat. Good photo ops abound in either city. Oddly, in Surabaya, I rarely see anyone shooting scenes they can't do without getting out of their massive air-conditioned SUVs. There are more photographers out and about in Malang, but again they don't seem keen to go beyond the pretty-postcard-picture places. The best shots in either city take a bit of walking to find and get to.

The Shoot Jakarta Project is interesting. I for one will look forward to seeing some images posted. Will you be doing a web site for it in the near future? It's the sort of photography more shooters should be out doing, before the city changes and many of the areas in the city center disappear forever.

I'll most definitely be watching this thread, and looking for more images. Keep up the shooting.
 
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Yes, hit those streets, shoot away, and keep on shooting. Your image will be very valuable socio-historical records, in the not-too-distant future, when it all changes and what you have recorded on film or pixels becomes past.

Another important aspect of recording and showing your images from the streets, is the photos can be a useful tool to promote social changes and improvements in conditions and facilities. As we know, there is more than enough money in Indonesia to do many more things than are now being done. Sadly, the money is being mismanaged, and there doesn't seem to be the will, either politically or publicly, to change things.

Sodark1828 (#3), what you say about Ahok is so spot-on,I agree with everything you wrote. Sad that he is now in prison, such a great talent and poltiical force languishing behind bars and wasted. Even sadder that Jokowi did so little if anything to try to diffuse the situation, obviously from his usual fear of offending anyone. Leadership was sadly lacking in this situation. Let us hope and pray that Ahok will be released soon. Indonesia needs people like him to move it forward.

I went to Palmera many years ago and also shot many memorable images there, on slide film. Used a Leica M2 and sneaked around taking grab shots of people living their everyday lives. I see the same scenes even now, in Surabaya, along the rail lines between Gubeng station and Kota in the city center or to Sidotopo where the old (Dutch colonial era) locomotive works are still in use. In some places along the tracks, when the trains come along (fortunately they don't travel at fast speeds), there is less than one meter of free space between train and houses.

All this will disappear eventually. Most Surabayans won't miss it, if indeed they even know it exists.

I'm now in Sarawak, shooting with my Nikon D700 kit and a 1966 Rolleicord Vb I bought recently, with B&W film and a 16 exposure kit. Ten, twenty, thirty years ago it would have been a Nikkormat 35mm kit and a Rolleiflex. Times pass, things (and photo gear) change. The 'cord kit is getting heavier to carry around. I had six rolls of film processed in a small Chinese studio here last week, and was amazed at the beautiful negatives I got back, even if the studio owner did them in print developer. The negs look good. I hope they print or scan as nicely.

Everyone uses phones now as cameras. Mirrorless compacts also. Not many DSLRs. I almost never see anyone with a film camera out of Singapore or KL, maybe as film is impossible to get locally and it costs too much per image to be economically viable. People tend to stare at me when I use the Rolleicord, but as I use the waist level finder and I don't lift the camera to my eyes to shoot with as I do the Nikon, they quickly lose interest and go about their business. I get better shots then.

I may return to Surabaya in November or December. There are many nice places in East Java I want to revisit, not having seen them since the 1980s. Malang was then a quite compact, quiet, cool and relaxing place. Now it's fast becoming another Indonesian city, tho' by no means as crowded, congested and polluted as is my usual hangout, Surabaya. Life in Malang doesn't take place so much in shopping malls as it does in 'boyo, but then it's cooler in Malang, and locals can hang out in the great outdoors without being cooked by the sun and the heat. Good photo ops abound in either city. Oddly, in Surabaya, I rarely see anyone shooting scenes they can't do without getting out of their massive air-conditioned SUVs. There are more photographers out and about in Malang, but again they don't seem keen to go beyond the pretty-postcard-picture places. The best shots in either city take a bit of walking to find and get to.

The Shoot Jakarta Project is interesting. I for one will look forward to seeing some images posted. Will you be doing a web site for it in the near future? It's the sort of photography more shooters should be out doing, before the city changes and many of the areas in the city center disappear forever.

I'll most definitely be watching this thread, and looking for more images. Keep up the shooting.

Hi Ozmoose! apologise for such long reply. too busy with work, although I managed to get some rolls for shoot jakarta project.

Thanks for the thoughts.
Everyone uses phones now as cameras. Mirrorless compacts also. Not many DSLRs. I almost never see anyone with a film camera out of Singapore or KL, maybe as film is impossible to get locally and it costs too much per image to be economically viable. People tend to stare at me when I use the Rolleicord, but as I use the waist level finder and I don't lift the camera to my eyes to shoot with as I do the Nikon, they quickly lose interest and go about their business. I get better shots then.
LOL! same here! hahahaha. A lot people in here use DSLR or just their phone in thaking pictures. Thats makes my Ricoh GR and Yashica looks a little bit "historic". Although the film community has raise once again for the past one year. But its still hard to find a film processing workshop in here.

So, since I tried some rolls with Rollei Retro 400s. I think I really like this film. Might be starting to use this from now on.

FUJI MDL 5 with Rollei Retro 400s

At Menteng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menteng
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A scene at Manggarai River at the center of the Jakarta
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Just 10 meters from my last spot, I saw 2 blind street performers singing to make ends meet
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I will upload more starting from today. Since I got new gear and more film to experiments :smile:
 

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Hello again,

I have been going through my backlog of photos and printed them in the past few months so I am ready to post my Jakarta batch.
These are all shot on my Leica M2 and either a 35 or 50 summicron lens.
Film used is Eastman 5222 (aka Kodak double X) and pushed 3 stops to 1600. I developed them in Rodinal 1:25 for 13 minutes.

All are wetprints on Forte Bromofort BSP-4 Double Weight fiber paper 5x7 inch except the little girl on her porch which was underexposed and had to print on hard paper, Fuji KM4.

Hope you like some of them - will post in two batches as Photrio only allows 15 in one go.

Thanks,
Ben

This first batch is from Palmera - the city around the rail-tracks.

The trains here come zooming by and this man was kind to invite me up to his porch just to stay safe for the train to pass. Interesting fact, the train was the old Marunouchi line carriage from Tokyo - where I live and ride the line twice a day to and from work. Was nice to see it still being put to good use in another country.

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This man was I think recycling some wood from around the railtracks.
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Some sort of a repairman with his wrench standing by.

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In this Palmera area I came across a group of young boys walking around and smoking. Was a bit shocked but still wanted to take the photo hoping this will be an image one day soon that could no longer be seen in Indonesia.

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An old lady in front of her house. I walked into the small streets just behind the train tracks and met a lot of nice people who were open to have their pictures taken.

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An old lady resting on a bench.

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Little girl on her porch - way underexposed and thus needing hard paper to print on.

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A mother giving a bath to her baby right by the traintracks (tracks behind me)

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And finally me in a mirror - as I walked away from Palmera i found this shop selling mirrors. Overexposed this one by 5 stops or so, needed to burn this image a LOT!

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Before work every day I'd take a walk in the neighborhood called Cikini where my office is located. I'd roam the streets from 6:30 to 8:00 before i head back to the hotel and get ready for work.

A grandma and grandchild morning walk

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The curious cat checking out some chicks :smile:

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People would just sit in front of their houses in the morning and watch the world go by. These are tiny streets where only pedestrian traffic is seen with the occasional motorcycle here and there. Lots of shops scattered around and people in general are very friendly and smiling at me despite me invading their privacy somehow...

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Every Friday after lunch my team would go to the Mosque and I as a curious traveler would follow them and just stay outside the prayer area observing. This boy was just ready for his prayer, carrying his carpet on his head.

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The small streets of Cikini, just behind the main road of Cikini Raya.

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An old blind beggar takes a nap while the prayers are ongoing, following which he'll be standing at the exit taking donations.

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This is at Sunda Kelapa port, an old fisherman takes a rest by his boat.

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These tuk-tuk like taxis are everywhere in Jakarta and I quite enjoy taking them. Drivers I met were all honest and one even let me drives his rickshaw. These are made in India by Bajaj and are very nice to get around with.
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