She says 1.4 bohka "is the best". ----

[removed account4]

She spoke about wanting to get Photoshop (complained it's too expensive) but want's to do "tilt shift" in photoshop....

......ANd she says she doesn't like JAZZ either... I listen to it all day.....

........ at least my 17 year-old and I have 1950-1970's Jazz, Steely Dan, Rush, and Yes in common.

she could get a lensbaby and do tilt-shift on camera with out the need of the program
unless she wanted to tilt shift on the camera, and UNtilt-shift in PS ...
sounds like fun ... like putting the heat and ac on at the same time and seeing which one wins !

 

[LiamG]

I have a lens with a malfunctioning diaphragm which won't close, so it always produces "brokeh".

I thought "brokeh" was what you became after you bought a Canon 85 1.2 L or an Aero Ektar.

 

[Worker 11811]

The English spelling 'bokeh' was popularized in 1997 in Photo Techniques magazine, when the editor Mike Johnston commissioned three papers (Grad, Merklinger, Kennerdell) on the topic for the March/April 1997 issue.

Unfortunately now, so many very wrongly use the word (which actually is the QUALITY of the out-of-focus blur) to mean the out-of-focus area itself (vis a vis the in-focus area within the DOF zone). Ironically many dispute their wrong use, when the correct definition of 'bokeh' (the QUALITY) is supported by famous optics companies like Zeiss' paper on the subject of DOF in-focus areas and Out-of-focus blur and bokeh quality characteristics of the blur.

Photos seeking to use razor thin DOF, particularly so-called 'portraits' in which one eye is in focus and the tip of the nose and the ears are out of focus, fail to appeal to me. There is an inordinate amount of attention on this use, when large apertures original were intended to get photos when there simply was not enough light for the limited ISO (ASA) film speeds.

I'm not an expert in Japanese language but, at the university where I work, I know the woman who teaches Japanese language and culture. I often ask her about things like this.

According to the way I understand, the word "boke" or "ボケ" (pronnounced "bokeh" in English) actually means "blurriness" or "having the quality of blur."

Therefore, what you say is right in line with the real meaning of the word.

When I was first getting serious about photography, learning how to develop my own film and make my own prints, short depth of field where the subject's nose was soft was simply called "out of focus." (Usually followed by, "Dammit!") Now they call it "art."

 

[lxdude]

I thought "brokeh" was what you became after you bought a Canon 85 1.2 L or an Aero Ektar.

Yeah, that too.

 

[brucemuir]

I once knew a photographer…(snip)

That's why you have an Elmar (or whatever).

s-a

I believe his name was Elmer

like the preacher, Gantry.

 

[lxdude]

For pictures of flowers you have to have a lens with good bouquet.

 

[hdeyong]

And if you can find a big old lens and want to move some water you can call it "bucket".

 

[vpwphoto]

I thought the original post was really funny. I take it that was how it was intended ?

Yes... depressingly funny.
I fired her. She couldn't believe it, and said it was my loss.
To much bravado, and self assurance, she was unteachable.

 

[lxdude]

Sounds like she needs her background to be clearer, and more depth in her field.

 

[mweintraub]

I'll take a 135mm f2 over the 50mm 1.4.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

snip

Unfortunately, the 1.8 bokeh faddist has all the conceit and arrogance of the very ignorant; hopefully she'll grow out of it but it doesn't sound encouraging. It's hard to learn when you already know it all.

 

[SafetyBob]

Great thread to bring to light again. See so much of the same thing these days too.

I spend a great amount of time in reading and research to insure that when I say something, it's right. Damn upbringing!!

Blame it on my parents!!

Bob E.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Great thread to bring to light again. See so much of the same thing these days too.

I spend a great amount of time in reading and research to insure that when I say something, it's right. @#!*% upbringing!!

Blame it on my parents!!

Bob E.

I'm doomed. Soon enough I'll be old and decrepit, and halfwits like the subject of this thread will be running the world.

Never mind, they already are...

 

[lxdude]

And you'll be reduced to laughing at your own past comments, as above...

 

[E. von Hoegh]

And you'll be reduced to laughing at your own past comments, as above...

Hey, was I right or was I right?

Beats drooling...

 

[clayne]

Yes... depressingly funny.
I fired her. She couldn't believe it, and said it was my loss.
To much bravado, and self assurance, she was unteachable.

And the best part is you could see it all coming anyway. Lack of depth, lack of critical thinking, indications of shallow pursuits (no pun intended). Prophecy fulfilled. Sigh, youth of today.

 

[Alan Johnson]

I think you will find that top pro photographers do in fact use shallow depth of field a lot, presumeably that's what sells clothes in non-studio settings.

http://www.vogue.co.uk/magazine/archive/issue/2013/June #1

 

[vpwphoto]

I think you will find that top pro photographers do in fact use shallow depth of field a lot, presumeably that's what sells clothes in non-studio settings.

http://www.vogue.co.uk/magazine/archive/issue/2013/June #1

I agree, I use the old f2 on my 105 all the time.
She just thought that was the only way to photograph.
She couldn't understand why I stopped the Hasselblad down to F8 in the studio, and thought that f2.8 plannar was worthless.

 

[lxdude]

Cain't do nuthin' bout thems whats thinks they knows.

BTW, "bohka" is the spelling in India.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

I think you will find that top pro photographers do in fact use shallow depth of field a lot, presumeably that's what sells clothes in non-studio settings.

http://www.vogue.co.uk/magazine/archive/issue/2013/June #1

But only to shallow people.

 

[GarageBoy]

Back in the 90s, 50 1.8s and 50 1.4s were the kit lenses. They were on the camera because they were cheap

Now everyone fawns over them like its the second coming of Jesus
I used a 50 1.4 wide open for my Junior High photos of all my friends because it was too dark in the cafeteria and classrooms for anything slower

I wish I could have closed down for some of the group shots

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I really dislike the 'everything wide open' crap that's going around. It's just silly.

And all the terminology that goes with it makes it so that I cringe when I hear someone talk about it.

Swirly bokeh takes the medal for the one that actually makes me physically sick...

Not using depth of field as something creative, as well as a control, is a bit of a mystery to me.

 

[Dan Fromm]

Thomas, those who don't know and don't know that they don't know ...

 

[GarageBoy]

Also, Bokeh is to photographers as Wabi is to watch collectors

 

[Dali]

I really dislike the 'everything wide open' crap that's going around. It's just silly.

No it is logical. If it is crap, the less you see the better.