shaking your exposed film in its film canister

[Randall Nguyen]

Can I ask, Randall, if there is a reason/rumour or whatever that was obtained from a source that has led you to believe that normal shaking of the kind you mention might lead to a worry of this kind given the kind of protection there is from a film cassette inside its canister

It is just that I think this is the first inquiry of this nature I have seen kind.

Thanks

pentaxuser

no no it was just personal logic being naive to film im just cautious of EVERYTHING which is better than being careless about everything; nothing influenced my belief. Hence, I even searched it up before submitting to the forums and found nothing!

 

[Randall Nguyen]

I have seen people make comments about the image falling off the film in the past and at the time they really appeared to believe it. Of course other people thought that was funny and make jokes about it.

[Quote: MattKing]
If I had a special "sarcasm alert" flag, I would attach it to a bunch of posts in this thread!
I like these questions from those who are new to film. They remind us about how much knowledge we tend to assume to be generally understood.

Something like [sarcasm] [/sarcasm][/QUOTE]

These days the introduction of "tone indictors" that a lot of us teens and others like to use b/c we text online and use social media 24/7. For ex. use /j = joke and /g = genuine at the end of their statement to show emotion in their sentences .

 

[Randall Nguyen]

Why shake the canister to see if there's exposed film in there? How would you know if it's exposed or unshot or shot and developed? Just take the cover off and look.

I don't know man... sometimes there's zero logical in my doings sometimes

 

[Randall Nguyen]

I'm curious as to what you think will happen if you shake a fill cassette?

I'm not too sure now thinking about it... Maybe I was assuming that the images would be messed up SOMEHOW.

 

[Truzi]

That was a problem with early hard drives. As the drives spun, the centrifugal force caused the bits to slide out to the outer edges of the disk, and if you didn't run the right tool, disingenuously named "defragment", eventually the data would slip off the edge of the disk and get stuck on the inside of the housing.

</urban legend>

Good one, I'm going to use that

These days the introduction of "tone indictors" that a lot of us teens and others like to use b/c we text online and use social media 24/7. For ex. use /j = joke and /g = genuine at the end of their statement to show emotion in their sentences.

Those are actually older than what we consider the internet/www. Check out old newsgroup archives and such. Seems people had this figured out before the rest of the world got online and had to invent it again.

 

[Randall Nguyen]

Good one, I'm going to use that



These days the introduction of "tone indictors" that a lot of us teens and others like to use b/c we text online and use social media 24/7. For ex. use /j = joke and /g = genuine at the end of their statement to show emotion in their sentences.

Those are actually older than what we consider the internet/www. Check out old newsgroup archives and such. Seems people had this figured out before the rest of the world got online and had to invent it again.[/QUOTE]

Mmmmm good to know good to know!

 

[BradS]

If I had a special "sarcasm alert" flag, I would attach it to a bunch of posts in this thread!
I like these questions from those who are new to film. They remind us about how much knowledge we tend to assume to be generally understood.

...and how much actually was generally understood.

 

[grat]

Those are actually older than what we consider the internet/www. Check out old newsgroup archives and such. Seems people had this figured out before the rest of the world got online and had to invent it again.

Pretty sure I stole it from the "jargon file", proving I've been on the internet since... well, since it was arpanet, and usenet was a thing. I think, embarrassingly, I've got some posts still on usenet from before Al Gore "invented" the internet. Or those pesky AOL people were let onto "our" network.

I even compiled my own copies of "rn" and later, "trn", as the admins at my university didn't think that was legitimate software for academia.

 

[AgX]

I'm not too sure now thinking about it... Maybe I was assuming that the images would be messed up SOMEHOW.

Basically there is something to it.
The image information stored on film before it being processed indeed is sensitive to its environment.

First of course light, but also Xrays. Then heat over a long period, but also vapour of some chemicals.
But at common use I would not bother with the above, except for the Xrays which may be a real hazard at some airports with new baggage scanners.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I have another absurd question that seems common sense but need reassurance from some opinions, does shaking the film canister that has exposed film inside of the film canister which is also inside of the plastic opaque container have a potential of ruining your film? Thank you!

What is even more confusing is that both on film and digitally the pictures are upside down so when the cameras get dropped all the photons get really confused.

 

[pentaxuser]

What is even more confusing is that both on film and digitally the pictures are upside down so when the cameras get dropped all the photons get really confused.

Not if you're in the southern hemisphere, they don't

pentaxuser

 

[Sirius Glass]

Not if you're in the southern hemisphere, they don't

pentaxuser

No it gets even worse because the toilets flush backwards!

 

[drmoss_ca]

If you shake it too much it will build up pressure and the shots will ooze out of the top of the canister. This happens even when I don't shake it, the good shots get out and I'm stuck w/ the leftovers.

Well, you shouldn't use those old alkaline film canisters. The rechargeables don't do that (or so BigClive told me).

 

[mcfitz]

I'm not too sure now thinking about it... Maybe I was assuming that the images would be messed up SOMEHOW.

Still a good question, there're plenty of unexpected ways for film in the cassette to get messed up.
Light piping is one of them, not yet mentioned, so here's some information on it.

https://filmphotographyproject.com/light-piping-prevent/

 

[markjwyatt]

Those are actually older than what we consider the internet/www. Check out old newsgroup archives and such. Seems people had this figured out before the rest of the world got online and had to invent it again.

Mmmmm good to know good to know![/QUOTE]

Maybe grep it.

 

[Truzi]

Maybe grep it.

That might be awk-ward

 

[Deleted member 88956]

That was a problem with early hard drives. As the drives spun, the centrifugal force caused the bits to slide out to the outer edges of the disk, and if you didn't run the right tool, disingenuously named "defragment", eventually the data would slip off the edge of the disk and get stuck on the inside of the housing.

</urban legend>

So over time there was a byte slime building up around the perimeter of he disks, eventually leading to disk getting stuck. Now I know what happened to few of mine. Thanks.

 

[grat]

That might be awk-ward

That's what she sed.

 

[grat]

So over time there was a byte slime building up around the perimeter of he disks, eventually leading to disk getting stuck. Now I know what happened to few of mine. Thanks.

Yeah-- here's an example.

Actually, this was an IBM model called "Deskstar" (known since as "deathstar") that had a problem where the drive could quite literally knock the magnetic media off the platters.

 

[Sirius Glass]

That might be awk-ward

That's what she sed.

Have you two become UNIXes?

 

[markjwyatt]

That's what she sed.

You don't gedit.

 

[MattKing]

To the OP (Randall):
Don't be too scared by all the old computer jokes here - it is just some people re-visiting their youth!

 

[Sirius Glass]

To the OP (Randall):
Don't be too scared by all the old computer jokes here - it is just some people re-visiting their youth!

Others just never grew out of it.

 

[grat]

To the OP (Randall):
Don't be too scared by all the old computer jokes here - it is just some people re-visiting their youth!

Youth? I'm still a linux admin. awk/sed are still useful commands.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Youth? I'm still a linux admin. awk/sed are still useful commands.

Fortunately for the rest of us UNIXs cannot reproduce.