Sensation: New 127 format film!

[Q.G.]

Damn, just watch the prices on baby Rolleiflexes skyrocket!!!!

Just wait until the end of Rolleiflex is no longer head line news, and things (and prices) will come back to normal.
Will not take long.

 

[RobertV]

The price of a baby Rolleiflex are going up further because by the end of 2009 Rollei-Maco will also introduce an E6 127 slide film again.

Best regards,

Robert

 

[BradS]

Why are some of you against the Efke. I like it. It has an old feel to it.

Nothing at all against Efke R-100. In fact, I'll probably still load the Imperial Satellite with Efke R-100 but it is nice to have a second source and more importantly, I hope that competition will drive down prices a little.

I will definitely give this new option a try. If it is any easier to handle and no more expensive than Efke...who knows? maybe, I'll even switch to the new film for my once a year 127 habit.

 

[Peter Schrager]

if anyone would like a really mint baby yashica that takes this film
please send me a pm....make me an offer please
Best, Peter

 

[John Shriver]

Nikor reels were made in 127 size, that's how I process my B&W 127 film. Can be found with patience on eBay.

 

[Trask]

Here's a tip -- on eBay look for "Kustom" developing tanks. These handle 35m, 127 and 120 by virtue of the fact that it is composed of the two reels and a variety to spacers that determine how far apart the reels are once assembled. The interesting this is that it would be very easy for an inveterate tinkerer to make his/her own spacers so that the reels are held whatever distance apart is necessary.

 

[dougjgreen]

My understanding was that Maco's previous 100 speed 127 film was re-branded Efke 100.

I use a Patterson adjustable reel and tank.

 

[Film-Niko]

What a surprise: There will be a new 127 film on the market.
Maco / Rollei-Film is offering the new Rollei Retro 80S now in 127 format as well (and 120)!

http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9944

No Efke R100 monopoly anymore.

Time to reactivate our Baby Rolleiflex, Yashica 44, Kodak Brownie and all the other nice 4x4 / 3x4 cameras.

I've used the Retro 80S in 35mm so far. One of the best films introduced in the last years. You get excellent sharpness and resolution (on the same level with Kodak TMX), but even significantly finer grain than with TMX. An excellent material for big enlargements.

Film is alive!

Thanks Distagon for posting this great news!

127 is a lovely format, my "fun format" .
New alternatives are great.
Efke R100 is a very good film, but I like changing films in my cameras for different subjects. Horses for courses.

By the way, I have made the same experiences with Rollei Retro 80S in 35mm (due to Rollei-Film this film is Agfa-Gevaert Aviphot Pan 80 from Agfa in Belgium, current production). Outstanding film with extremely fine detail. You can blow up these 80S negativs to really big prints. Best resolution, extremely sharp and fine grained. And suitable for IR photography. And I have never seen a film being so perfectly flat after drying.

Seems that Rollei-Film is becoming "king of the niche", because they have introduced so much new speciality films during the last four years. Film types, which were discontinued by other manufacturers, are resurrected by Rollei-Film. That's great.

And Robert Vonk's statement that Rollei-Film will also introduce an E6 slide film in 127 in the near future......hey, that means super-slide will be back!!

Guys, you made my day

 

[Aurum]

Do a home-brew reversal or dr5 on Efke R100, and superslide never went away

 

[tef312]

Seems that Rollei-Film is becoming "king of the niche", because they have introduced so much new speciality films during the last four years. )

To be the king of the niche you have to be a little more than Maco. Maco doesn't introduce "new films", but buys films and gives them the correct size (KB, 120, 127) so we can use them for fotography. Generally this is a good idea (if there wouldn't always be that big marketing bla bla), so we can use good films like Agfa Aviphot Pan for normal fotography.

Unfortunately, during the last time there were some quality problems, so one tim e120 roll films had the wrong size (60mm) and now with some 400S Films the paper on the backside isn't sticked correctly so if you want Maco changes universal 200 und retro 400s films to Rollei IR films http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10132. In some german forums there are rumors about emulsions problems with Rollei ATP, I don't know if this is true, because I don't have used it for a long time. The one (and only) I used was ok.

As I've said, I think this is too little to be a king. The standard of photographic films isn't set up by Maco (nor by Foma nor by efke), but by Ilford, Kodak and Fuji. If you want to have the most up to date high quality films you have to go for these three brands.

Don't misunderstand me, I use Foma or efke films and I like them, but with these films I know what I get when I buy them.

tef312

 

[Distagon]

To be the king of the niche you have to be a little more than Maco. Maco doesn't introduce "new films", but buys films and gives them the correct size (KB, 120, 127) so we can use them for fotography. Generally this is a good idea (if there wouldn't always be that big marketing bla bla), so we can use good films like Agfa Aviphot Pan for normal fotography.

To establish a new programme of films on the market, which has not been available for us photographers so far, is a really big enterprise and challenge. You have to invest lots of money, much more over a million €, even if other film manufacturers are producing for you. Because you have to pre-finance the production, converting and storage. You have to put cash on the table.
And Rollei-Film has introduced more than 10 films during the last 5 years. No other manufacturer put so much new films on the market.
And they have had the faith to invest in niche products like Tech Pan films, Pan 25, Ortho film, high resolution material, graphical film, Infrared, slide film, CN film without orange mask, redscale film.
Niche products, which were given up by most of the other manufacturers.

Yes, and therefore they are indeed king of the niche, because no other company has so much niche films in their film portfolio, and no other manufacturerer has so much money and faith invested in niche products to serve our needs.

Unfortunately, during the last time there were some quality problems, so one tim e120 roll films had the wrong size (60mm)

These films were converted by Ilford. Even the bigger manufacturers have sometimes quality problems. Shit happens. You have quoted aphog. Just have a look at the posting of Dieter Müller Hennig concerning the packing problems with Ilford rollfilm.
My Kodak 135 films all have problems with black dust partikels on the cartridge. I have to blow and wipe the dust away before I can load my camera, otherwise I have all that dirt in the camera and on the film plate.

and now with some 400S Films the paper on the backside isn't sticked correctly so if you want Maco changes universal 200 und retro 400s films to Rollei IR films http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10132.

One batch of films converted by Foma. Foma has apologized for these problems caused by them.
In my opinion the reaction of Rollei-Film was extremely honest and user friendly. Excellent service.

In some german forums there are rumors about emulsions problems with Rollei ATP, I don't know if this is true, because I don't have used it for a long time. The one (and only) I used was ok.

I have never had any problems with ATP. Probably because I am using the dedicated ATP DC developer. Most of the problems reported so far are due to handling faults and raping this special film by using standard developers. Standard developers didn't work very well with Kodak Tech Pan, you had to use Technidol or Neofin doku for best results, and they are not good for using Rollei ATP as well.
Agfa-Gevaert is producing this tech pan film primarily for industrial use, so this material has to be made according to highest quality standards. Therefore emulsion problems are extremely unlikely.

As I've said, I think this is too little to be a king. The standard of photographic films isn't set up by Maco (nor by Foma nor by efke), but by Ilford, Kodak and Fuji. If you want to have the most up to date high quality films you have to go for these three brands.

The standard of photographic films is not only set up by Kodak, Fuji and Ilford, but by Agfa-Gevaert as well. They are leading in several areas, and their production figures are much much higher than these of Ilford for example.
And most of Rollei-Film is made by Agfa-Gevaert.

 

[JanaM]

ISO 800/30° CN film in 127 offered, too

Very good news:
Rollei-Film will also introduce their new ISO 800/30° film in 127!!
Official statement from Maco / Rollei-Film from today.

It seems that they are planning a complete 127 film programme.

Jana

 

[Ektagraphic]

Where can you buy this stuff in USA? I know that Freestyle sells some of the Rollei films....

 

[Nikanon]

does anyone know where i can find the data sheet for rollei 80s and where i can buy it?

 

[JanaM]

Where can you buy this stuff in USA? I know that Freestyle sells some of the Rollei films....

Retro 80S in 35mm and 127 is already listed at macodirect. You can buy it.
The 800 ISO CN film will be offered, production is not finished yet.

I think Freestyle is certainly the way to go for you in the US. If they are sleeping, make pressure . A friend of mine in the US said they are sometimes a bit slow with new products.

Jana

 

[JanaM]

does anyone know where i can find the data sheet for rollei 80s and where i can buy it?

http://macodirect.de/retro-kleinbildfilm-c-1_6_56_479_480.html

http://macodirect.de/download/Rollei_RETRO80S_TA_dt.pdf

http://www.agfa.com/sp/en/binaries/AVIPHOT PAN 80_tcm221-42585.pdf


Jana

 

[Kingbobdole]

Sweet! I just ordered some efke 100 for my yashica, but I'll look for some of this in the next go around... Maybe freestyle will have it by then.