Schneider Xenar 135mm f4.7 Cable Release Port Size?

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

I just got a Crown Graphic Special with the Xenar lens and the cable release I've used in my other cameras seems to be a tad too big to fit in the Xenar's port. Does anybody know the port size for this lens?

Ian Grant · Mar 19, 2012

Welcome to APUG.

The Xenar takes a standard tapered thread cable release but some can be larger than others.

Ian

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

Thanks for the response. I'm using a 20" standard cable from Adorama (I can't post a link yet). So if I try a different brand standard cable it may work?

Moopheus · Mar 19, 2012

What shutter is it in?

E. von Hoegh · Mar 19, 2012

The socket ("port") which the end of the release screws into may be damaged.

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

Moopheus said:
What shutter is it in?

Sorry, not sure I understand what you're asking. Still new to LF

E. von Hoegh said:
The socket ("port") which the end of the release screws into may be damaged.

It doesn't appear to be damaged to my eye, just a little too small to accept the cable release. I will double check though when I get in front of it again.

Steve Smith · Mar 19, 2012

Beach_Bum said:
Sorry, not sure I understand what you're asking. Still new to LF

With large format, the general terminology is that a lens is in a shutter. this is because the lens is usually made up of front and rear cells which screw into the threaded parts at the front and rear.

This picture: http://www.montagu-pollock.co.uk/blog/files/0130-70-1.jpg

shows a shutter with it's lens elements removed. The front thread can be seen.

Steve.

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

Ah, thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately I don not know which shutter it is in. Let me see if I can post a picture to help clarify...

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

One more to get to 5...

Beach_Bum · Mar 19, 2012

Here is a pic of my shutter/lens combo:

Steve Smith · Mar 19, 2012

It's right there. A Synchro Compur shutter, probably size 0.

Schneider lens data here: http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/vintage_lens_data/

And specifically, 135mm Xenar: http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/vintage_lens_data/large_format_lenses/xenar/data/4,7-135mm.html

Steve.

snederhiser · Mar 20, 2012

Hello;
You have a Compur Synchro #0 shutter, maybe the press model. On the left side is the shutter release lever. Just above is a small bracket where the release cable screws in. On the top of the shutter off to the left is the sync port for firing off the flash. The release cable is not inserted into the body as earlier shutters. Copal press shutters use this same system. Have fun, Steven.

jeff.blackwell · Mar 20, 2012

That lens typically came in the press shutter, which I believe was designated 00. It should work fine with your cable release as snederhiser mentioned, but you might need to try a different release.

E. von Hoegh · Mar 20, 2012

Is there a piece of broken-off threaded portion of a release still in the socket?

Ian Grant · Mar 20, 2012

That is not a Compur Press shutter they are quite different to the Synchro Compur and it's certainly not a #00 size shutter the f4.7 is in a Compur #0, the equivalent 135mm Tessar (an f4.5) came in a Compur #1 as did the 135mm f4.5 Xenar.

Sometimes the cable release socket threads get damaged which may be why the cable release won't fit in this case

Ian

Beach_Bum · Mar 20, 2012

Thank you for the responses. I had a chance to look at the release socket last night and there doesn't appear (to my eye) to be any damage or broken off pieces lodged within. I guess at this point I'll purchase another standard size release cable and hope it fits.

Schneider Xenar 135mm f4.7 Cable Release Port Size?

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