Sally Mann switches to digital from 8x10.

[MattKing]

Ontologically, it's a mess.

As is some of the most interesting Art - a mess, that is.

 

[Cholentpot]

The art world may or may not coincide with the way successful artists think or with what they believe. The art world is primarily marketing but artists themselves are usually about creating - they channel a drive that brings art into being. But that it's even called "art" is sometimes more the result of marketing than anything the artist believes or says. Ontologically, it's a mess.

Which gives me a cynical eye to what's presented. I don't know the vast majority of well known artists. I generally have to look them up to get familiar with their work. Many times I have an ignorance of the era or reason for their work. Other times it just doesn't speak to me at all. No idea why or what the person is saying and for what reason. Other times the work straight out of the gate is impressive and then there are times it takes some studying to figure it out.

A lot of work that I see that people go gaga over seems to lack anything that will age well once the generation that they catered to is gone. And then there's the rare timeless work.

 

[Oldwino]

Leica gave her a camera. She is using it with an old lens she's had for years. From what I can see from several photos of her floating around holding the new Leica, it seems to be a Summitar.

 

[Don_ih]

a Summitar

If it's this:

it's an Elmar.

 

[koraks]

collectors are starting to reject expensive inkjet prints in favor of analog prints (silver gelatin, Pt/Pd, etc.). I wonder if that might drive artists back into the darkroom.

Back to the galleys, you mongrels!!! Harhar

 

[Milpool]

$2000 darkroom prints aren’t going to happen either.

I was speaking to a well-known gallerist/curator the other day and she told me she was recently speaking to an equally well-known photobook publisher and the both agreed that 'the days of the $2000 inkjet print are over'. Based on their opinions, at least, collectors are starting to reject expensive inkjet prints in favor of analog prints (silver gelatin, Pt/Pd, etc.). I wonder if that might drive artists back into the darkroom.

 

[Pieter12]

I think I remember reading in Hold Still that she had her father's Leica in college. Probably the lens from that one on the new digital Leica.

 

[Pieter12]

$2000 darkroom prints aren’t going to happen either.

You haven't been to any galleries lately I'm guessing. I see prints (both darkroom and inkjet) that range from a few hundred dollars to 5 figures, depending on the photographer.

 

[Pieter12]

If it's this:
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it's an Elmar.

It would be nice if you credited the photographer: Maude Schuyler Clay

 

[Chuck1]

But the gallery gets half

 

[Don_ih]

It would be nice if you credited the photographer: Maude Schuyler Clay

I'm happy you found a credit on the cesspool the internet is.

I think I remember reading in Hold Still that she had her father's Leica in college. Probably the lens from that one on the new digital Leica.

This:

is not an Elmar.

Feel free to credit the photographer.

 

[Cholentpot]

If it's this:
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it's an Elmar.

You're all looking at the camera. Is that a Casio F91W?

 

[MattKing]

I'm happy you found a credit on the cesspool the internet is.



This:

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is not an Elmar.

Feel free to credit the photographer.

Based on the apparent age of Sally Mann in that shot, it may very well be that you would have to dig up and revive the photographer before the credit would be appreciated.
But yes, if the photographer's identity is known, please provide credit.

 

[logan2z]

You haven't been to any galleries lately I'm guessing. I see prints (both darkroom and inkjet) that range from a few hundred dollars to 5 figures, depending on the photographer.

+1

 

[Don_ih]

Based on the apparent age of Sally Mann in that shot, it may very well be that you would have to dig up and revive the photographer before the credit would be appreciated.

The internet has numerous copies of that photograph but I can only find one reference to the photographer - which appears to be Ted Orland. He likely wouldn't appreciate being dug up, since he's not buried. The photo was from 1973. The camera is a IIIf. The lens is a Summitar.

 

[Don_ih]

Maude Schuyler Clay

Incidentally, that photo features at the top of this Sally Mann interview, which is worth reading.

 

[MattKing]

The internet has numerous copies of that photograph but I can only find one reference to the photographer - which appears to be Ted Orland. He likely wouldn't appreciate being dug up, since he's not buried. The photo was from 1973. The camera is a IIIf. The lens is a Summitar.

Glad he is still amongst us

 

[Pieter12]

Incidentally, that photo features at the top of this Sally Mann interview, which is worth reading.

It is also used in this interview https://www.vogue.com/article/sally-mann-art-work-interview
You can tell she's out promoting her book big time with all these interviews and talks--she'll be in LA at the Getty Center in February.

 

[bjorke]

You're all looking at the camera. Is that a Casio F91W?

probably, cheapest one I think that has a stopwatch.

 

[Vaughn]

Sally Mann is an exceptional artist. And a role model for some us juggling raising kids and trying to progress making photographs. She demonstrated that it was possible and that helped when I raised triplet boys and incorporated them into my 8x10 B&W work out in the landscape.

I work much slower, exposing but can understand how freeing digital capture can be, especially with the trained and experienced eye and intent of someone like Sally Mann.

When I can’t carry the gear in the field and make the images in my head into prints, I’ll be too old to worry about going digital beyond my iPhone…I’m 71, so we’ll see in three years. So far so good. Just got back from 5 weeks in Japan, visiting my son in Tokyo, and walking and bicycling around with the Rolleiflex or the 4x5. Eight rolls of 120 (Acros and FP-4) and sixty sheets of 4x5 FP-4 exposed. Hopefully I’ll get something like this iPhone image with the 4x5 to print with the carbon process.

 

[warden]

The author mentioned Mann’s age three times - if Sally even knows about this lightweight article I assume she’s simply thrilled about that. She seems to be energetic and in fine shape (in her book she says she runs 3 miles every day). She stated quite clearly that she’s changing to digital because of money.

 

[argent_negre]

Since nobody mentioned it, I’m going to do it. I’m utterly devastated by these news.

 

[Pieter12]

Since nobody mentioned it, I’m going to do it. I’m utterly devastated by these news.

Buck up and handle it.