[Rolleiflex 6008] Lens adaptability

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Can I use my Rolleiflex 6098 lenses on any other cameras? Maybe the phase ones? 35mm? I suppose the internal shutter + iris make them impossible to use on anything else.
 

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The only adapter I know of allows you to use your lenses on a Nikon F mount. A dumb adapter, it has its own diaphragm and uses the camera shutter.
 

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This is a compatibility chart I made for my lenses.

Depending on the type of 6008 lens you have you may or may not be able to use it on other cameras.

AFD = autofocus lens with no aperture ring.
AF = autofocus lens with aperture ring.
PQ(S) = PQ and PQS lenses, manual focus with aperture ring.
SLX = older lenses with chrome trim ring in front.


 
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SLX lenses don’t have a shutter right? How can they be compatible with 6008 cameras?
 

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SLX lenses look like this. You can use them on the newer 6008 cameras, but they won't work on the Hy6.

 
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So basically I can only use my pq/pqs lenses on the hy6 or the leafs.
Since I have 2 af lenses (80 2.8 and 180 2.8) and the 6008 af is not worth it (2 or 3 focus spots only, very prone to become confused by “unsuitable” surfaces, impossible to focus on faces, no focus lock, impossible to repair) I was wondering if better autofocus on the hy6 and leafs makes it worth to keep the lenses:
- how many focus points are there on the hy6 and the leafs?
- do they have focus lock?
 

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I believe there is just one focus point on the Hy6, but you can choose how big the area is. I use the smallest option. If you set the camera focus to manual, the teardrop shape button just above that setting will activate autofocus. Once you release it, the focus is locked.

And the Hy6 is pretty much impossible to have serviced, too. One tech in the US and spotty service and parts from the factory.
 

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About your original question about adapting Rollei 6000 lenses, nobody makes adapters that can actuate the aperture.

Fotodiox makes the adapter with a behind the lens aperture, you can stop down 1, maybe 2 stops before hard vignetting sets in but effectively you use the lenses wide-open only.

I have one here and tried all my lenses with it, and just for posterity's sake:

All tried with a Panasonic S1 (35mm sensor) and the following lenses.

HFT 50/4 -> Reasonably sharp, nothing special but not a useful combination.
PQS 50/2.8 -> Surprisingly very sharp all over the frame, but this combination is massive, not useful.
PQ 80/2 -> Reasonably sharp, but not very. Again too chunky for what it is, a plain Nikon AI 85 is more practical.
PQS 80/2.8 -> Quite sharp, reasonably sized.
PQS 150/4 -> Sharp, reasonably sized, could be useful.
PQ 180/2.8 -> A bit softer then the 150, wide open a great portrait lens, but its absolutely massive.
HFT 250/5.6 -> Sharp, could consider as a relatively compact long tele.

Conclusion; If you already have the lenses there can be some use to it and only really in the portrait-tele's range.

I paid 50 euro's for my adapter and already own the lenses, given the above findings the only Rollei lens i plan to use this way is the 180mm.

Otherwise a set of cheap adapted Nikon AI lenses would make more sense.
 

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As for the Hy6, it's AF is probably better then the 6008AF.....but

The Hy6 is by now fundamentally a 17 year old design and it's autofocus system has to move a lot more glass than a 35mm system does, it's never going to be fast.
 
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As for the Hy6, it's AF is probably better then the 6008AF.....but

The Hy6 is by now fundamentally a 17 year old design and it's autofocus system has to move a lot more glass than a 35mm system does, it's never going to be fast.

Thanks Locutus!
My idea is that I should decide whether to sell my AF lenses or not, based on their usefulness.

Since I tried a 6008af and

- the af is a toy
- the camera is unfixable

and the hy6 is impossible to buy and seemingly impossible to fix, I was wondering, as a last option whether my af lenses would be of any use on Leaf cameras.
 

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The Leaf is a rebadged Hy6. Same issues. No Mod2 either.
 
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