Rolleiflex 1956 K4B, Won't advance beyond first frame.

[M. Axel Wikstrom]

New to me Rolleiflex. I was going to take it with me today for a visit with Lee Marmon, the Native American Photographer. He invited me to visit and photograph the Laguna Pueblo Fiesta/Gathering. Ended up taking the Hasselblad instead.

Anyway,

Loaded the Rollei as per instructions with the film leader between the two (sensing) rollers, over the rollers that are above and below the film gate, into the take up spool, cranked so there was a few turns on the take up spool, close the back, and cranked until it stopped on frame 1. It appeared that it worked as advertised to that point.

After firing a first test shot I tried to crank it to frame 2 and it wouldn't budge. Crank turns backwards and cocks the shutter, but won't advance forwards past frame 1.

Took the film out and it's still stuck on frame 1 and the crank won't turn forwards, but turns backwards.

Anyone know what this might be?

Thanks

 

[Dan Daniel]

Try pushing the shutter button down as far as it will go.

There are two things happening when you fire the shutter, and they are two separate mechanical systems. One thing is that the shutter is released. The other thing is that the wind mechanism is released for winding and re-cocking the shutter. Ideally these are adjusted so that they are in sync. But it is possible for the two operations to happen at two different points in the shutter button travel.

Question- do you need to push the silver ring around the wind know in the direction of the arrow before you wind backwards? It's concerning if you don't. And the counter not moving after opening the camera- did you close the back? Does the counter go back to 0 at that point? If not, you got some real problems in there.

No assurance that what I mention is the answer. Could be other things, almost all of which involve opening the camera.

Oh, you do need film loaded in order to get the counter moving for testing, so hold on to that roll you just ruined and use it as a test roll.

 

[M. Axel Wikstrom]

Thanks for your reply Dan. No, I didn't have to move the silver ring to wind backwards, and opening and closing the back doesn't reset the counter window. Still stuck on number 1. It's pretty jammed up, but I didn't force anything. Probably beyond what I can do with it, so it will go to a repair tech.

 

[M. Axel Wikstrom]

... Also, I can wind it backwards which cocks the shutter. Fired the shutter several times this way and it's still stuck.

 

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hi
im guessing you googled a little bit but not sure ..
i found this
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/classics/forum/messages/2/25205.html?1347953624
if you click the main forum and search ( find in your browser ) rolle there are 88 entries
maybe there is something there that might also help ?

ive never taken my rolleicords apart, always sent them to zacks who fixed them up ...

good luck getting your camera back on the road !

john

 

[M. Axel Wikstrom]

hi
im guessing you googled a little bit but not sure ..
i found this
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/classics/forum/messages/2/25205.html?1347953624
if you click the main forum and search ( find in your browser ) rolle there are 88 entries
maybe there is something there that might also help ?

ive never taken my rolleicords apart, always sent them to zacks who fixed them up ...

good luck getting your camera back on the road !

john

Thanks John. Sounds like it could be a bent linkage between the shutter release and wind mechanism like Dan postulated.