Rodinal name change?

[ElrodCod]

Check out this thread.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68616

 

[Aurelien]

Well if it really changed hi name, the one written on this topix is wrong.

Due to a trade issue with the agfaphoto holding, that is still alive and sells rebranded digital, or old stock films from leverkusen, chemistry is now part of Maco. And they do not have the right to call their product agfa, nor rodinal etc... so rodinal becomes R09 one shot, agefix becomes fixAg, etc... but products are the same.

 

[sandermarijn]

But surely they could have chosen something better than "Blazinal"? To me it sounds like medication for the bladder or something. Rodinal was (is) a great name- sparkling and indestructible, just like the stuff itself. Blazinal; what were they thinking?

Sander.

 

[Harry Lime]

Blazinal? WTH?

Well, I guess we're better off being stuck with a stupid name, than no Rodinal at all...

 

[Alex Bishop-Thorpe]

I thought the photo-chemical manufacturing part of AgfaPhoto had been spun off to another company (with rights to the name), while Maco was simply making equivalents. If not, where has all the official "Rodinal" been coming from? Freestyle has it in stock.
I guess we'll see if this filters through to the rest of the world...weird name though. Maybe they're trying to make it sound a bit faster. BLAZINAL. Sorta like Rodinal with racing stripes.

 

[AgX]

The former Agfa chemistry plant has after the insolvency of AgfaPhoto (along with AgfaPhoto's minilab branch) been sold to the IT company a&o which seemingly wanted to expand into the imaging business. But that did not turn out the way they expected. Thus about a year ago the chemistry plant was sold to a german company, Connect Chemie, which controlls a network of chinese chemical plants.
AgfaPhoto Holding holds the right for the brand AgfaPhoto and that red dot. Agfa-Gevaert N.V. of course the Brand Agfa and that red rhomb.


`Rodinal´ is not owned by AgfaPhoto Holding, but (at least registered in Germany on them) AgfaPhoto GmbH in insolvency.

So this all is going to be quite complicated...


Edit:

That chemistry plant does not longer offer the former Agfa chemicals directly as they did when being a&0 Imaging for a while. Seemingly they now only produce on behalve on some sales houses.

 

[Mark Antony]

I understood A&O imaging had acquired part of Agfaphoto. Chemical manufacture and minilab sales if I remember correctly.
On the bottle of Rodinal in my hand it clearly says A&O imaging solutions, I can't follow the link (RF forum is blocked as I'm at work) but have A&O stopped making Rodinal or are Maco making a clone?
Just seen the above clarification Thx

 

[Alex Bishop-Thorpe]

The former Agfa chemistry brand has after the insolvency of AgfaPhoto (along with AgfaPhoto's minilab branch) sold to the IT company a&o which seemingly wanted to expand into the imaging businees. But that did not turn out the way they expected. Thus about a year ago the chemistry plant was sold to a german company, Connect Chemie, which controlls a network of chinese chemical plants.
AgfaPhoto Holding holds the right for the brand AgfaPhoto and that red dot. Agfa-Gevaert N.V. of course the Brand Agfa and that red rhomb.


`Rodinal´ is not owned by AgfaPhoto Holding, but (at least registered on them) AgfaPhoto in insolvency.

So this all is going to be quite complicated...

Ah! Thank you for the clarification, very much appreciated.

 

[Ian Grant]

Agfa let the trade name registration for Rodinal slip in the US, so J&C bought the rights to use the trade name. Then J&C sold RO9 as Rodinal in packaging that closely resembled the genuine Agfa packaging.

Ian

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Named after the great sculptor, "Blazin," I suppose?

 

[Gim]

Bet Matt "Blaze-on" has something to do with this.

 

[Mahler_one]

Blazin

Named after the great sculptor, "Blazin," I suppose?

Not at all David...obviously named after "Blazin Saddles"...

 

[Chazzy]

I've never used Rodinal, but changing the name would be a sacrilege equal to a Japanese company making "Voigtländers."

 

[AgX]

Maybe a sacrilege, Charles, but if you found two bottles on the rack, knowing the content of both originating from the same tank, would you pay more for one just for the name of it?
At least that is what the suppliers tell us: brandname licence will mean higher retail prices.

 

[fschifano]

Maybe a sacrilege, Charles, but if you found two bottles on the rack, knowing the content of both originating from the same tank, would you pay more for one just for the name of it?
At least that is what the suppliers tell us: brandname licence will mean higher retail prices.

Amen to that. If it's the same thing, I don't care what the label says. They could call it Penn Station Pisswater for all I'd care. Just like the Arista Premium films from Freestyle. The 400 speed looks like Tri-X, feels like Tri-X, and even smells like Tri-X. I'll take the Arista branded stuff at $15 USD or so less than the Kodak branded stuff for a 100 ft. roll.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Or you could make paRodinal for about 1/3 the cost of Rodinal. Call it heresy, but I actually prefer it as a developer--a lot like Rodinal with a bit of the edge burnished off, kind of like Rodinal + sulfite.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Blazinal. If you ever catch the NPR radio show "Car Talk" with Klick and Klack - their fashion adviser is Bud Tugly. Maybe he has something to do with it?

 

[Uncle Bill]

Blazinal??? Oi vey, considering how long Rodinal has been around, I thought it would be public domain at this point. At the very least come up with a cooler name.

 

[Alex Bishop-Thorpe]

All in favor of "Rockinal"?

 

[Photo Central - AT]

As a dealer stocking Rodinal, soon to be "Blazinal," I can at least clear up the name origins for you a little bit...

The Canadian distributor for Rodinal is Blazes Photographic. In speaking with them recently, I was told that maintaining the original "Rodinal" name was prohibitively expensive, though still possible. Hence the re-branded name (perhaps with a bit of narcissistic license?) . I won't give specifics here, but maintaining the old name would have driven the retail cost of Rodinal up by as much as $8 or so (in my estimation).

It is, however, the same developer, so have no fear.

Cheers,

Andrew Toews

Photo Central Inc
DarkroomCentral.ca

 

[ElrodCod]

So, It's really a Canadian issue?

 

[MartinP]

Blazinal. If you ever catch the NPR radio show "Car Talk" with Klick and Klack - their fashion adviser is Bud Tugly. Maybe he has something to do with it?

Clearly, these two characters on the radio are named after the Agfa roll-film cameras (Click and Clack), so it all links up and makes sense really . . . errrmm.

Alternatively, it is just a trademark problem, but that is more boring.

 

[AgX]

Well, Rodinal was registerd in Canada on an Agfa Gevaert NV subsidiary. Seen the development in Germany these rights most probably have gone to AgfaPhoto GmbH in insolvency.

But anyway, that right has been expunged in february last year...

 

[sun of sand]

Saw this the other day and thought it sounded familiar
Rodinal has also been branded Azol ..by those only printing their Rodinal developed negatives on Azo silver chloride contact paper
Activol by those jock photographers wanting to steer clear of all nerdiness
Artinal by the self-proclaimed artistes
Paranol by the paranoid watermarkers of the world?
Blazinal now by those Canadian slackers addicted to P-Aminophenol
Don't know how Rodinal came about
The lonesome travelers film developer perhaps

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[Colin Corneau]

Considering how little of the stuff one uses, I may well have my bottle of Rodinal (please, please let that name stick...) into the next century.