Reza's Leica (Panasonic) digital compact thread: D-Lux, V-Lux

[RezaLoghme]

In a quite irresponsible state of mind, I picked up a shabby looking V-Lux 4 for the price of a good steak dinner. Photos did not look promising. Today it arrived. Cleaned it. A charming little fellow. More toys than in Hamleys. Some pixel issues in a corner of the fold-out screen. Everthing else works. Small, lightweight...and really "ok-ish" OOC files. Some post-production, but thats it.

How on earth can this cost less than an Oberwerth bag? It is going to be my travel companion from now on.

My puzzled face!!

 

[koraks]

How on earth can this cost less than an Oberwerth bag?

Probably because it's really the same as a Panasonic FZ200. It's made by Panasonic also, but was also sold with a Leica badge. AFAIK the camera is really a Panasonic camera, but made in part to meet specifications outlined by Leica. AFAIK the electronics as well as the optics are in-house developments by Panasonic.
So realistically you'd expect to pay for a V-Lux4 the same as for a FZ200 plus a premium for the Leica logo.

The going rate for a FZ200 around here is around €100-150 with some peaks to €200-250. Supply seems to be ample.

 

[RezaLoghme]

I like it a lot and am surprised about the image quality and how much it can do.

 

[RezaLoghme]

I am now getting used to the camera. At the beginning, it felt like an Airfix clone of a "real" camera, I admit.

It is so different to M and R cameras. It may sound a bit weird, but the whole black plastic and light weight makes it look and feel contemporary (despite bein 10+ years old). I played a bit with the settings and came up with with a high contract b/w setting which is the Panasonic-fuelled version of my Monochrome M for now.

Funny side note: You can turn the rear LCD screen so it cannot be seen, and in that way it is an hommage to leica's M262.

 

[RezaLoghme]

It turns out that I am carrying my lunchbox-with-a-lens everywhere! Today, in a park, I used the fold-out screen, like a YouTuber! Reza, you are going to become a hipster!

It is really the "Haribo Colorado" of cameras. A bit of everything, cheap, satisfying.

We should all own one. When Cameracommunism takes over the world, this would be the VolksKamera.

 

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[RezaLoghme]

All directly OOC, no edits/crops.
Nice tonality, soft microcontrast, warm resoltion.

 

[RezaLoghme]

Vintage? Check — 14 years old and still running.
Pocketable? Check — lens retracts into the body.
Underdog? Absolutely — never loved by diehard Leica fans because of its Far East genes.
Rare? - Check, only made for two (2!) years until replayed by ref. 114.
Cheap? 300 EUR or less from classifieds, no problem.
Good enough image quality for human eyes? 12.1 MP. Check.
Silent for street work? Check — all sounds can be turned off, including the shutter.
Versatile (wide angle to super-tele, 25–600 mm equivalent)? Check.
Waist-level finder? Check — LCD can be turned and twisted.
Lightweight? 588 g including lens. Check.

I think I finally understand why it belongs in a Photrio fan’s hands — it ticks all the boxes that diehard members love.

 

[koraks]

The camera works!

 

[RezaLoghme]

You know you have arrived in Photography Zen Heaven when you are happy with a badge-engineered 14 year old bridge camera for a few 100$ from the classifieds.

 

[koraks]

Sometimes, pleasure comes with a very modest price tag.

 

[RezaLoghme]

Anyone remember when M bodies could be had for peanuts? Ugly stepchild models such as CL or M5 were given away for a few $$$? And today people say "I I had only...".

Watch this space.

 

[RezaLoghme]

Straight OOC

 

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Exposure +0.3 in Apple Photos

 

[RezaLoghme]

Is there a way out for me, back to Cameras For Real Men, or am I going to be stuck in Bridge Camera a.k.a. the V-Lux 4 as the Toyota of cameras.
Plastic, unfashionable, already fully depreciated — but it just works. Quiet, light, versatile, and good enough for real photographs.

 

[RezaLoghme]

I’m slowly getting into this camera. Compared to my M Monochrome it feels flimsy, but it’s a delight to carry when walking. The many little buttons on the back have a life of their own. The actual image quality? On screen, basically the same as the M. The zoom… exactly what I need.

It’s a carefree camera: I take it everywhere, and I don’t worry about losing a €300 tool.

 

[Anaxagore]

10+ years ago, I got a used V-lux (1, but for the first one there was no number) at the local camera store for a good price. I complemented it with 2 lens attachments, one for tele one for wide, that were Panasonic-branded.
I regret giving it to a family member (no idea of what happened to that set), as it was perfect for travel. Only drawback with “Leicasonics” is the battery, the original ones being unavailable after some time. Otherwise a pleasure to use, whether on vacation ot when traveling for work, and also fun to make “tube” effects by using the tele attachment with the embedded lens at minimum focal length.
I can only suppose the new V-lux models are as fun to use as the original.

 

[RezaLoghme]

Dont worry, the unavailable batteries are "Peak Leica", as you can see from various threads about the M240 in Leica forums.

It is fun, harmless, acceptable. A camera that makes no promises or demands.

Its assymetric shape makes me misalign the camera somewhat. I checked, and the sensor is perfectly adjusted. Just my muscle memory...

 

[RezaLoghme]

Leica D-Lux 8
Hi, does anyone own this camera? Happy to hear real-life user experiences.

 

[RezaLoghme]

So I bought one.

PREAMBLE: Yes it is a Panasonic, yes it more expensive than its Panasonic sister, yes that "sister" is old (based on Dlux 7 which is not very much above the Dlux 109), yes it does not have the shift zoom function like the Dlux 7. It has less resolution than current M or Q or SL. After restart, the camera does not remember its last zoom setting. Let's get these things out of the way first.

It is wonderful. Unlike M, Q and SL it is small enough to fit in pockets of jackets and coats easily. The EVF and is many fine details and indicators is a delight. I have set it to b/w with hard contrast, which is how it is going remain. Its rear side is as clean and minimalistic as "Das Wesentliche" stipulates. You can set aperture and focus manually, and it feels great. For a two camera setup, it is this one and a M6 (or M3?). Add a M monochrome and a Barnack leica, and a R6, and you are done for life.

 

[RezaLoghme]

After an hour of "photo walk", I can say that it feels like a jacket-pocket-sized Q.

The extending lens...well ok. Display and user experience...great and modern. Controls (focus, shutter time, aperture) feel like on a film camera. Zoom - not so much. All in all a very traditional look and feel. The tubular lens barrel...a friendly nod to the 1950s 90mm Elmarits...sort of.

I like it, and it is going to accompany me on a trip from Cannes to Paris soon.

P.S.: Two minor let-downs. The tiny flash is a little ugly thing, not very effective. And the hand-strap...
P.P.S.: I just found out it has a touch screen!
And: The zoom speed AND startup time of my bargain basement V.-Lux 4 are much faster.

 

[RezaLoghme]

UPDATE

The DLUX 8 is a delight. And has some flaws. I know that a zoom lens requires certain extension of the lens barrel (although some do not, e.g. my 28-70 Vario Elmar R). Its auto-power-off mode leads to a contast in and out of the lens, when using the camera in a "street" setting. Also the position of the buttons on the back interfere with one's right hand's natural grip position.

Still, it is a camera you like to "wear" because of its size and "feel". I think I am going to get a lot of mileage out of it.
BUT
YOUR
MILEAGE
MIGHT
VARY

 

[RezaLoghme]

Just a thought.
(Fender Rhodes)

Why is it that Leica does not offer a lens hood for the D-LUX 8? Instead, I will have to go on AliExpress, for a Hagoe (?) one.