Return Of ILFORD Photo SFX 200

[Rob Skeoch]

I've already got it on order in Canada. It hasn't shipped yet but I ordered it at the end of Feb.
-Rob

 

[Brian Jeffery]

Just placed my order with Silverprint for 10 rolls in 120 and 10 in 35mm. Should keep me going for a little while. But then I know it's fresh


Brian

 

[kraker]

I haven't been able to find it at my usual suppliers (in the Netherlands and Germany), and questions on whether they want to re-stock the re-introduced SFX-200 have gone unanswered so far. (Probably film is a niche product for them, they'd rather sell another digi-gizmo to someone...)

Still... I can always order at Silverprint, I understand (although I don't see it on their website either...).

 

[Brian Jeffery]

Still... I can always order at Silverprint, I understand (although I don't see it on their website either...).

Silverprint have only just got SFX in so it hasn't hit the website yet. However, you can either phone them for details or order online without supplying the product code, just use the description field.

Brian

 

[kraker]

Silverprint have only just got SFX in so it hasn't hit the website yet. However, you can either phone them for details or order online without supplying the product code, just use the description field.

Brian

Thanks, Brian. I'll first give my regular stores another chance; if they fail again, I'll go for Silverprint.

 

[kraker]

SFX 200 is available in Germany .
Today I received 25 in 120 format and 5 in 135 format.
It was delivered by www.Nordfoto.de.

One of my regular shops, www.fotomayr.de, now also has SFX in stock (here).

<rant>
A bit higher price than NordFoto, but then again: at least you can place an order for less than EUR 238 at Mayr. NordFoto has -for some reason- EUR 238 as a minimum order for outside Germany :rolleyes: (I can understand there's a lower limit, but EUR 238 isn't really low, now, is it?).
</rant>

By the way, I see Silverprint has now also listed SFX-200 It's really starting to hit the shelves! Good! Time to pick a shop and place my order

 

[Brian Jeffery]

Kraker,

although Silverprint doesn't appear to say so on their website, I'm sure I got a 30% discount for ordering 10 films.

I've now used three 120 films and I think I'm starting to get the hang of exposure and development times. (Perceptol at 1:3 not being in listed in the developement chart )


Brian

 

[Daniel_OB]

Bravo Ilford and Simon. It is how it should works, not as Kodak does. Might be they will also start use SFX for their internal needs, instead of their dig. sh***, and they should.
www.Leica-R.com

 

[kraker]

Kraker,

although Silverprint doesn't appear to say so on their website, I'm sure I got a 30% discount for ordering 10 films.

Not bad at all... Maybe I should ask them for a quote, even more so because it will involve int'l shipping...

I've now used three 120 films and I think I'm starting to get the hang of exposure and development times. (Perceptol at 1:3 not being in listed in the developement chart )

Brian

 

[wotalegend]

Any update on when we can expect to see SFX 200 in Oz? Waiting patiently.

 

[Ole]

<rant>
A bit higher price than NordFoto, but then again: at least you can place an order for less than EUR 238 at Mayr. NordFoto has -for some reason- EUR 238 as a minimum order for outside Germany :rolleyes: (I can understand there's a lower limit, but EUR 238 isn't really low, now, is it?).
</rant>

EUR 238 is not a problem if you shoot 8x10" - or even 5x7" in colour!

 

[wotalegend]

Still waiting :confused: Surely we are not that far away

 

[timbo10ca]

I just picked up my promo pack, and I've never shot this stuff before. I've only got experience so far with HIE using a #25 red, so I'm able to focus normally through it. Are you able to see well enough through the 89B to focus, or do you focus first without filter then adjust on your lens to the IR dot? The last thing I'm wondering about shooting is if you can use this film with newer cameras (unlike HIE) that have the IR light for film advance, as it has the anti-halation coating (I have an EOS 3 and Elan 7)? As far as developing, what are people using? Does the film rate as a true ISO 200?

Thanks,
Tim

 

[tchamber]

I put one roll through my OM-2 with a 25 red filter (for most shots). I shot at 200 and had it processed by dr5.

I focused and metered as with any film and did not adjust the focus. My understanding, which could be wrong, was that this film did not require any focus adjustment. In any event, all of the shots appeared to be properly focused.

The IR effect was quite a bit stronger than I expected, this not being a full IR film. (A lot of foliage is nearly white.) Nevertheless it looks quite good.

 

[thebanana]

I've done one roll as well, using the deep red (almost black) Cokin filter that came with the promo pack. I was still able to meter through the lens, and didn't make any focus adjustments. The shots looked relatively sharp, but more experimentation is needed to confirm the lack of need for focus adjustment for myself. I used Ilfosol as a developer. My initial impression is that this is a really nice film. I expect to use a lot of it this summer.

 

[kunihiko]

I have shot some SFX films with my Canon EOS Kiss(Rebel something) and Konica Hexar RF, both camera have IR film advancing but with no problem.
You may not be able to see well through a 89B filter. It's really dark. So I put a filter behind the mirror of my EOS.
As for the metering, rated as EI160 and a red filter(R-60) with TTL metering worked fine for me. This would be my favorite combo, much better than usual film with orange.
With a very deep red filter(R-72), I just use f5.6 and 1/30sec under bright sunshine as Ilford suggests. Exposures were right on.
Focus adjustment should depend on lens used. Newer lens with good chromatic correction won't need it, since SFX is not that much different from other panchromatic films, I think.

 

[timbo10ca]

I have shot some SFX films with my Canon EOS Kiss(Rebel something) and Konica Hexar RF, both camera have IR film advancing but with no problem.
You may not be able to see well through a 89B filter. It's really dark. So I put a filter behind the mirror of my EOS.
As for the metering, rated as EI160 and a red filter(R-60) with TTL metering worked fine for me. This would be my favorite combo, much better than usual film with orange.
With a very deep red filter(R-72), I just use f5.6 and 1/30sec under bright sunshine as Ilford suggests. Exposures were right on.
Focus adjustment should depend on lens used. Newer lens with good chromatic correction won't need it, since SFX is not that much different from other panchromatic films, I think.

I was wondering about what the Ilford site sais about the f5.6 at 1/30- If the film is ISO 200, using sunny 16, it would equate to f5.6 at 1/30, no filter. Then add the 16X (4stop) filter factor for the 89b SFX filter, and that gives f5.6 at 1/2, does it not?????? :confused:

 

[timbo10ca]

I've done one roll as well, using the deep red (almost black) Cokin filter that came with the promo pack. I was still able to meter through the lens, and didn't make any focus adjustments. The shots looked relatively sharp, but more experimentation is needed to confirm the lack of need for focus adjustment for myself. I used Ilfosol as a developer. My initial impression is that this is a really nice film. I expect to use a lot of it this summer.

I don't know how the heck you composed looking through that filter- I tried looking through it on camera today and couldn't see a thing (and that's on a 50mm f1.4 lens)! I figure I'll have to compose and focus, stick filter in front of lens, meter through filter (and see if agrees with my sunny 16 calculation) , then shoot. Is this what people generally do?

 

[thebanana]

Yes, I should have been more clear on how I did this. You are right, you can't see through the filter, not very well anyway. I made my focus adjustments while the filter was off, then put the filter back on, metered and fired away. I'll post an example in my gallery later today.

 

[timbo10ca]

I was wondering about what the Ilford site sais about the f5.6 at 1/30- If the film is ISO 200, using sunny 16, it would equate to f5.6 at 1/30, no filter. Then add the 16X (4stop) filter factor for the 89b SFX filter, and that gives f5.6 at 1/2, does it not?????? :confused:

Ugh. I just woke up and slapped myself in the forehead. Just goes to show that I shouldn't try to do photography late at night when I've had a few beers- f16 at 1/200 equates to f5.6 at 1/1600. Then add the filter factor of 4 stops- f5.6 at 1/100. This is still off from what Ilford sais though. Am I still half asleep?

 

[Bob F.]

Your maths is now faultless, however it does rather assume that Ilford set their EI according to the Sunny-16 rule. This is unlikely, although they do say that the 200ASA is an EI rating, derived not from standard ISO practice but from "practical evaluation".

In practice, in the UK, it's more of a Sunny-11 rule... I think I mentioned that I have rated it as EI 6 to EI 12 in the past with good results, which is still up to a stop slower than Ilford's suggestion, but then these things are always subject to developer used, how much you want to compensate for potentially poor metering skills by protecting the shadows (not by me of course ...) and personal preference.

Cheers, Bob.

 

[htmlguru4242]

Apologies if I've missed it among the many posts in this thread; but when/where will this be available in the US?

 

[bdial]

It's available now, Freestyle and Calumet show it on their web sites, but it's been going in and out of stock, so I understand. I special-ordered some from my local shop.

 

[Terence]

Freestyle has it in stock in 35mm, but sold out in 120. There are probably others. B&H doesn't seem to have it.

 

[Rob Skeoch]

It's backorded in 120 but in stock at most Ilford stores in 35mm and the 3 roll with filter promo packs.

I have both in stock and am waiting for the next shipment of 120.

-Rob