I agree with you, Keith.
The "trouble" for the industry is now that people are so used to make photo's for free that they expect prints for unrealistic prices aswell.
If you just want photo's to put onto the internet then a compact or cell-phone will do.
It is like in the day's of 110, Disk and 126: the quality does not matter as long as we have something to remember.....
It is like a sine-wave: the upcomming and demise of a format; some formats like 35mm, 120/220 and 4x5/8x10 seem to be unaffected by it.
For serious photography I believe analogue will be here to stay: digital can not handle everything.
Just the other day an 18 year old showed his new self made 8x10 camera on the Large Format Forum: hart-warming and beautifull made.
Getting our youngsters interested in analogue and it's posibilities will be the greatest chalenge for us.
Peter
I'm starting to here people ask for simple cell phones that do nothing but make calls and last ten years.
It's ironic to see how old farts become "digitalibans" and we, the young "peeps", defend the film medium.
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I learned an new word today => digitalibans
Steve
Amen.
That is what our buddies need to know.
My $80 N90s with some 400nc can compete nicely with any digicam.
Hey, while uptown today a guy was asking where he could buy 8 track tapes!! What's old is new again.
Think I'll open a camera shop.
Mike
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I believe it's curiosity.....
Took a trip to Rocky Mtn. Ntl. Park last year.After getting my pictures and returning to my vehicle, a young, 21ish Navy seal saw my film camera and started really asking questions.Told him I could get really good 16x20's and if larger wall prints were desired, good 20x30" prints were possible from 35mm.He was amazed that a 35mm FILM camera could do that well.Said he would have to give film a try.
I have a cell phone that is only a phone. Never had one with a computer or a digisnap. I have mine set to not accept text messages. KISS!
Steve
One of the best/broadest ways to look for decline or resurgence is in market prices and their trends. I watch these things to try to divine what's a good deal and when to buy/sell.
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I am very disappointed by the continuing high price of the higher-end dedicated film scanners, and the lack of new products in that sector. E.g. the Nikons haven't budged one iota, and apparently some are not available at all. At the same time, the prices of used dedicated scanners has remained high and the used scanners have become quite scarce. This is not good at all for anyone wishing to go from digital -> film. It's basically killing that off IMHO. Too bad because newbies to film really need feedback over the web and some convenient way to see what they're getting without having to learn darkroom techniques or shell out big bucks for professional scans.
The sad thing here is that many, if not most, of the major camera "names" no-longer have a professional-grade film camera in their current line-up. When I read that Nikon no-longer makes a professional film camera, it made my grip on my FA, F4HPs, and F4s tighten-up somewhat.
I shot a wedding today (using my Nikon F3HP & Nikon F4s), and out of maybe 25 people with cameras, I was the ONLY one there using film...ALL the others were digital P&S cameras...Not EVEN a DSLR in the bunch.
So much for a resurgence in film & film cameras...At-least not today, and not in Aberdeen..
I shot a wedding today (using my Nikon F3HP & Nikon F4s), and out of maybe 25 people with cameras, I was the ONLY one there using film...ALL the others were digital P&S cameras...Not EVEN a DSLR in the bunch.
So much for a resurgence in film & film cameras...At-least not today, and not in Aberdeen..
I shot a wedding today (using my Nikon F3HP & Nikon F4s), and out of maybe 25 people with cameras, I was the ONLY one there using film...ALL the others were digital P&S cameras...Not EVEN a DSLR in the bunch.
So much for a resurgence in film & film cameras...At-least not today, and not in Aberdeen..
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