I also have excellent results with this film at EI320 developed in stock ID-11.
I think it's entirely possible that Xtol-R has problems building density with this emulsion. Adrian's own comments express frustration for inability to achieve density similar to Foma's data sheet.
If you are interested in sensitometry I would recommend you Beyond The Zone System Book, by Phil Davis, if you have not read it.
Will check it out, thank you. In the case of Foma 400 I am having trouble getting the edge markings to be as contrasty in Xtol-R as they are in stock ID-11. That to me is a clear sign that something is off. Adding time helps, but at 15:00 @21C I am clearly dealing with a very long shoulder. I think I'll be sticking with stock Xtol for this film. Besides, it keeps green-coloring my Xtol-R bottle, I am not sure I want that.
I am now officially enamored by replenished Xtol. After a dozen experimental rolls, I have started processing my primary films: Delta 400 and Ultrafine Extreme 100 in it and the results are pretty sweet.
Primarily it comes down to tight grain. I always liked stock D76 for grain, but Xtol-R takes it further. Here's a random sample:
Delta 400 in Xtol-R (full image)
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100% crop
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This is how ISO100 films usually look! For the record, I have processed this at 21C for 11 minutes.
It's not all roses, Xtol-R is not active enough IMO for Fomapan 400 and I have a strong suspicion that it will not work as well for HP5+ but those are my "moody" films that I happy to use stock Xtol or ID-11 for.
I am now officially enamored by replenished Xtol. After a dozen experimental rolls, I have started processing my primary films: Delta 400 and Ultrafine Extreme 100 in it and the results are pretty sweet.
Primarily it comes down to tight grain. I always liked stock D76 for grain, but Xtol-R takes it further. Here's a random sample:
Delta 400 in Xtol-R (full image)
View attachment 249457
100% crop
View attachment 249458
This is how ISO100 films usually look! For the record, I have processed this at 21C for 11 minutes.
It's not all roses, Xtol-R is not active enough IMO for Fomapan 400 and I have a strong suspicion that it will not work as well for HP5+ but those are my "moody" films that I happy to use stock Xtol or ID-11 for.
Be happy to do so Andrew.@MattKing.... you're going to have to coach me on this replenished Xtol. Xtol 1+1 was my favourite for years before I switched over to pyrocat-hd.
Be happy to do so Andrew.
We just have to wait until the current product shortage issues are resolved.
In the past, either Nicole at Beau, or B&H.
Unfortunately, my shipping address in Point Roberts Washington isn't really accessible now, and likely won't be for a long time!
Were those shot on 35 or 120? What EI?
Wow. Every one of the usual online dealers is out of stock. I hadn't realized.
Good thing I won't need more for several months...
Please test HP5 and show us what you find.I am now officially enamored by replenished Xtol. After a dozen experimental rolls, I have started processing my primary films: Delta 400 and Ultrafine Extreme 100 in it and the results are pretty sweet.
Primarily it comes down to tight grain. I always liked stock D76 for grain, but Xtol-R takes it further. Here's a random sample:
Delta 400 in Xtol-R (full image)
View attachment 249457
100% crop
View attachment 249458
This is how ISO100 films usually look! For the record, I have processed this at 21C for 11 minutes.
It's not all roses, Xtol-R is not active enough IMO for Fomapan 400 and I have a strong suspicion that it will not work as well for HP5+ but those are my "moody" films that I happy to use stock Xtol or ID-11 for.
Please test HP5 and show us what you find.
Wow. Every one of the usual online dealers is out of stock. I hadn't realized.
Good thing I won't need more for several months...
Fotoimpex has Xtol in stock https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/fotochemie/kodak-xtol-zum-ansatz-von-5000-ml.html?cache=1593676685 - also no shortage on HP5 either.
Please test HP5 and show us what you find.
I quite like HP5 in replenished XTOL. Here’s a resource page I’d you want to look at what the curve would generally look like: https://www.photrio.com/forum/resou...plenished-xtol-for-7-30-at-24c-in-a-jobo.421/
basically, from grades 6 to 10 it’s a little lower contrast, but Below grade 6 to film base plus fog, it’s about normal. At ~ISO contrast, it’s between 400 and 500 speed, and at zone contrast you lose a little speed.
I would confirm this, some of the XTOL Dev times given are rather too short.I used replenished XTOL with HP5+ with great results. I had to increase the development time in the Jobo processor.
Thanks Adrian! Very helpful.I quite like HP5 in replenished XTOL. Here’s a resource page I’d you want to look at what the curve would generally look like: https://www.photrio.com/forum/resou...plenished-xtol-for-7-30-at-24c-in-a-jobo.421/
basically, from grades 6 to 10 it’s a little lower contrast, but Below grade 6 to film base plus fog, it’s about normal. At ~ISO contrast, it’s between 400 and 500 speed, and at zone contrast you lose a little speed.
Please test HP5 and show us what you find.
I agree with Sirius, although I have gravitated toward a larger container - about 1.5 litres - for my working solution.
Your "Batch Replenishing" will result in inconsistent film development, and won't give you the same tonality from roll to roll. Fresh as mixed X-Tol is more active than seasoned developer. It usually takes 4 - 6 rolls to fully season X-Tol in a replenishment regime. Once seasoned, your developing times will probably be close to the 1 + 1 times.
You probably could split your working solution into two smaller bottles for in-between developing session storage, as long as you combined the two before starting the next session.
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