it's my understanding that the current version of D-76 uses something other than metol
If I wanted to replenish, can I use a published version of D-76R which does use metol?
After a bit of poking around on this site and the interwebs, it's my understanding that the current version of D-76 uses something other than metol. If I wanted to replenish, can I use a published version of D-76R which does use metol? Has anyone simply reused the stock solution for TMax films without replenishing?
Thanks for your help.
P.S. Yes, I'm aware that Xtol doesn't require all the "ins and outs" to run replenished but I never really got along with this developer.
That's a rather specific question and I couldn't answer it with certainty, but I'd be inclined to follow Big Yellow's advice....to process TMax films, using a replenish routine, I should initially mix something like 1 part D-76R to 4 parts D-76 because TMax films are "harder" on the developer. Given that I shoot other films in addition to TMax, is it really that critical to follow this initial modified formula?
a modified D-76 stock, for processing and replenishment of TMax films, is only good for 4 weeks.
they moved away from this to be ready for future EU legislation
except they are going back
ECO holds up about 24 months after manufacturing. The CLASSIC keeps many years.
I had mad a similar evaluation (attached file), appropriate for EU, based on prices of Suvatlar for Hydroquinone and Metol, and a household chemistry supplier for the rest. My result is 2.78€ for 1 litre of stock D-76. Cheaper than a 1-litre Kodak powder package; hardly worth the trouble in 5-litre quantity (but I can't use 5 litre stock before it goes bad).If you are looking to save money by replenshing, let me give you an alternative: Scratch mix D76.
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Kodak prices for same: $900
I had mad a similar evaluation (attached file), appropriate for EU, based on prices of Suvatlar for Hydroquinone and Metol, and a household chemistry supplier for the rest. My result is 2.78€ for 1 litre of stock D-76. Cheaper than a 1-litre Kodak powder package; hardly worth the trouble in 5-litre quantity (but I can't use 5 litre stock before it goes bad).
I can't pinpoint the reason for the large difference between your result and mine. Only part comes from somewhat lower prices at Atrcraft, and from your buying larger quantities (assuming one uses 226 litres of stock D-76). I could not guess (maybe did not try hard enough) what ttl gr and MEASURES stand for. Furthermore, you seem to be dividing your total cost 110.37$ by the quantity 226 litres to obtain a unit cost 0.488$/litre, but the quantities you bought (and whose cost you add up) are not in the proportions of the D-76 formula. So it looks to me like 110.37$ is the cost of initial procurement, but not the (incremental) cost of 226 litres of stock D-76.
Can you please explain?
Side note: in my evaluation, the single largest contribution to the total cost is... sulfite, usually considered "cheap"; sure but there is 100g of it.
I have been considering running D76 replenished, but have held off because I like the look of 1:1 too much.
In any case, though, as I'm typing this I have a bag bought from my local camera store last week. It's marked with a production date of 1/2/2024, and an expiration date of 1/2027.
Replenished ID-11/D76 gives results very similar, in terms of look, to used at 1+2, with slightly finer grain. The developer was designed for replenishment.
Ian
Question, would Photographers Formulary version of D76 replenished work with standard D76? I have a liter kit for PF D76 and might pick up a packet of the replenisher but then wondered if you work with Freestyle or Ultrafine version D76.
Thanks-this is part of why I want to try it too. I actually really like the look of 1:2, but times are tough to find even from unofficial sources like the massive developing chart.
Thanks-this is part of why I want to try it too. I actually really like the look of 1:2, but times are tough to find even from unofficial sources like the massive developing chart.
1:1 is also already tough for 35mm when going by Kodak's recommendation of a minimum of 8 oz. of stock solution per "unit" of film. That of course is perfect for 120 since in most tanks you need ~16oz of solution, give or take, to cover the roll, so 1:1 works perfectly. With 35mm, I usually end up using a 16 oz. tank with an empty reel to go 1:1, or a 32 oz. tank(and usually a 120 reel to take up the empty space) to develop 2 rolls.
Full strength D76 of course works out perfectly volume wise for 35mm.
I'm actually really excited to try this for myself, since it sounds like it gets the contrast of dilute solutions, presumably grain more like stock, and no worry about solution volume for 35mm in a conventional stainless tank...
The alkalines need to match, You can make D76 with borax or kodalk. The replenisher should be made with the same. So, if you don't know, it may or may not be worth attempting.
DK76 is way mire active than D76, so times will be shorter, grain probably not as fine.
Ian
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