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Hi all,

I'm interested in your recommendations on grain focusers, loupes, and light tables.
- Grain Focusers: Which models work best for you? Are the Paterson plastic ones any good? I've been enlarging for 30 years without one, so maybe it's time to get one?
- Loupes: What magnification and brands do you use for negatives and slides?
-Light Tables: What size and lighting do you prefer? I remember these used to be super expensive, and I could never afford one, but now there are LED options for a fraction of the price.
I am interested to hear your suggestions!
 

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I have found that the Peak Grain Focusers are brighter, sharp and easy to use anywhere under the photographic image. Skip the wannabees and go right to buying the Peak Grain Focuser of your preference.
 

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Hi all,

I'm interested in your recommendations on grain focusers, loupes, and light tables.
- Grain Focusers: Which models work best for you? Are the Paterson plastic ones any good? I've been enlarging for 30 years without one, so maybe it's time to get one?
- Loupes: What magnification and brands do you use for negatives and slides?
-Light Tables: What size and lighting do you prefer? I remember these used to be super expensive, and I could never afford one, but now there are LED options for a fraction of the price.
I am interested to hear your suggestions!

I use a Peak / Micromega grain focuser. IMO they're well worth the money.
I use an old 10x12" light table w a light bulb in it.... if i were buying one I'd buy an LED one....but this one works and wont die.
I use a Nikon loupe, that's been w me since the Kodachrome era. works like a charm
 

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I'm using a Paterson grain focuser simply because it was available locally at the time, and 'fit the budget' nicely. I find it really only works nicely when fairly well centred on the image, but so far I haven't yet found justification to upgrade it to a nicer model.

Loupes are something I should probably invest more into, as currently I'm using some random unbranded ~4x thread counter, and a very cheap 'Canon' branded 8x. But honestly they're 'good enough'. If I need to enlarge the detail further, well... I have a device called an enlarger that does a fairly good job of that. Given the price of the higher end options here, it is something I strongly suggest looking around at local cheap options and actually looking at something through one before shelling out cash for something fancy. If you're happy with the $5 bargain bin option a local shop had, and it isn't a design with random sharp edges to damage negatives with, then I can't really see a point in paying a ton more for something fancier.


For light tables I've been using a random A2 [paper standard] sized LED pad that was mostly marketed to artists for a tracing paper light source. Light is visually even enough for my use, and I'm not trying to meter based on it or anything so I didn't need to be picky about it. It is enough space to lay out a few 8x10 sheets of negatives, but takes up a small table's worth of space. They're very affordable if you don't need a high precision lighting option, just check reviews for comments about flickering I guess?

The larger A1 size isn't a huge jump in budget for twice the area, but it really feels like more of a question of 'how much surface area do you want to dedicate to lighting up'? They're also kind of cheap enough and thin enough that it isn't entirely unreasonable to start with an A4 size panel with enough room to light up an 8x10 sheet of negatives and buy more/bigger panels as needed if you find you need more space for different tasks. Legit kind of tempted to order an A1 currently.
 

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I use the same grain focuser - Peak. Compared to my Paterson version (small type) the Peak is easier to use, but the results are similar. For the light table I have a Kaiser Slimlite which I am very pleased with.
 

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I still use the Bestwell MicroSite. Not very expensive, if you can find one, and works perfectly.
 

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Light table, loupe and focuser...I couldn't live without these things.

There are many options out there but this is what works for me.

Nuarc light table, Kenko 8x loupe and Peak or Micromega focuser.

I have one of each Peak and Micromega and they are the same thing with different stickers on them.

The Nuarc table is a little big but was free. Apparently the graphics arts folks don't use these any more now that everything is computerized.

Light Table copy.jpeg
 

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I still use the Bestwell MicroSite. Not very expensive, if you can find one, and works perfectly.

I very much agree. I purchased a peak grain finder because I liked the ones we had at school. After I got a grant I purchased a peak one for $300. Imagine my disappointment when I realized the microsight worked soooo much better for me when enlarging color negatives and it was only $30. I've been using the microsight for decades.
 

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Another Peak Model One user here. I also use a Peak 8x loupe for examining negatives. My lightpad is an Artograph 12"x9" LightPad 930 LX. Sized perfectly for a sheet of 35mm or 120 negatives.
 

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In the darkroom that my Darkroom Group gets to use, there are a couple of Peak/Micromega grain focusers which I enjoy using.
At home, I use a Bestwell Micro Sight mostly - it works well for me. It is nicely complemented with a Bestwell Magna Sight - which helps get me close when the enlargement moves the focusing control a long way from the easel.
The Micro Sight:
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The Magna Sight:
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I have an old Carsen loupe that is relatively low power, but is big enough to use with 6x6 transparencies. Carsen were a Canadian distributor that distributed Olympus cameras in Canada for many years, but also distributed lots of relatively inexpensive accessories that many camera stores sold.

As for a light table, I have an inexpensive Huon LED panel that is USB powered and is bigger than a sheet of negative files. It works well, although I expect that some of the much more expensive versions would be better for professional analysis of colour transparencies. I like the fact that it and a cord fits easily in a case intended for an oversize laptop - easy to take it with me!
 

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Has anyone had experience with Scoponet? I like its design, but I don’t see many people preferring it over other popular options. It’s not expensive, but is it worth trying, considering I already own a Paterson Micro, which works well for me, but Scoponet just looks better to me.
 

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Hi all,

I'm interested in your recommendations on grain focusers, loupes, and light tables.

Hello Miha,

- Grain Focusers: Which models work best for you? Are the Paterson plastic ones any good? I've been enlarging for 30 years without one, so maybe it's time to get one?

I am using the Kaiser 4x focuser, but mostly the Ahel Scoponet 20x grain focuser, which works excellently for me. I always get perfect focus with it, even with very fine grained films.

- Loupes: What magnification and brands do you use for negatives and slides?

Recommendations for loupes / magnifiers:
For 35mm / Kleinbild (KB):

The Schneider-Kreuznach 4x (silver version, with interchangeable base for incident and transmitted light viewing) and the Rodenstock 4 (black, with slider over the transparent base for incident and transmitted light viewing) are first class.
Both are very sharp and have excellent contrast, and distortion-free when viewed directly through the centre.
The magnification of the Rodenstock is slightly higher and the field of view somewhat smaller (the outermost corners of a KB slide are cut off).
Both have dioptre compensation, which is very good.
I use both magnifiers, I love them

The Silvestri 4x is also really very good and practically at the same level (available from Fotoimpex, for example). I have that too.

For me a 4x magnification is perfect for a 35mm positive / negative.

Then there is also the Leica 5x. Also optically excellent. I decided against it at the time because it wasn't suitable for me as a bespectacled person (I couldn't see the whole image field).

I use the Schneider-Kreuznach 10x loupe for assessing sharpness. Again, excellent quality. If a slide is sharp under it, it is really sharp. And it can be projected to any size without any problems.
The ADOX 10x loupe is also very good (I have that, too), but optically not quite on the same level as the Schneider.

For MF:
The Schneider-Kreuznach 3x MF loupe: It's simply top!
Perfect for everything up to 6x7cm, and even 6x9cm still works really well: with the 6x9 slide only half a centimetre is missing on the left and right, nothing more.
Ratty sharp, high contrast, distortion-free, interchangeable base as with the 4x version for 35mm.
I love this thing. Viewing MF slides with it is a real pleasure.

I believe there was a counterpart of the same quality from Rodenstock, but I've never held one myself.

The Peak Anastigmat 4x is also really very good optically:

A friend of mine has one.


-Light Tables: What size and lighting do you prefer?

I am using the Kaiser slimliteplano lighttables. They are excellent.

I am using the smallest for presenting transparencies at photographer meetings:

And the medium size I am using at home for viewing complete films at once, and evaluation / viewing of my positive and negatives in general:

Best regards,
Henning
 

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In answer to post #11.

I own 2 Scoponets. They’re 20X. The two plano-convex lenses are uncoated and require the user’s eye positioned quite close to the eyepiece. Realistically, this is optically no better than the Paterson Micro Focuser. I find the view of the Paterson brigher and easier to use. The view has less contrast than that of the Paterson. Nonetheless, the Scoponet was the only focuser I owned for the first 15 years of my darkroom work.

One thing to keep in mind: All focusers work best when you close the aperture on the enlarging lens about 1 stop from wide open. That refines the view considerably, making it much easier to focus the enlarger accurately. If you already own the Paterson Micro Focus Finder, the Scoponet offers no practical advantage.

You might find the following Scoponet Notes useful:

Scoponet (France)

Thomas Instruments Scoponet 20X, uses two 2-element uncoated plano-convex lenses. The base to the center of the mirror is 105mm. The eyepiece tube is 45°from vertical. The mirror’s normal axis is 22.5° from vertical.

The first version was built on a cast aluminum alloy body. It is packaged in a tall yellow box with black horizontal bands at the top and bottom. The top of the box is marked, “Verifcateur de Mise au Point, SCOPONET por Agrandisseurs, Imp. Cart. CELLE & Gullin, St. Chamond.

The foil label on the base of the Scoponet reads,”Scoponet, Ets M. Torret, FRANCE.” The index reticule is on a thin, transparent plastic disc.

Disassembly: The barrel must be unscrewed from its receiver at the top of the instrument. The two lenses and their spacer are retained by a threaded brass retainer ring at the bottom of the barrel. The bottom of the retainer is flat and can only be turned by friction, since there are no drive slots. It bears against the bottom lens, so obviously, it can’t be tightened by much. Otherwise, the clamping force might damage the glass.

The retainer can be turned with the friction of one’s thumb. A better choice is the smallest tapered rubber ring in the Japan Hobby Tools rubber lens-opener set. The small end is the ideal size to drive the retainer while clearing the ID of the barrel.

It would be a good idea to set a white towel over the opening of a plastic dishpan and work there so that the parts don’t fall to the floor and get lost or damaged. Once the retainer is removed, you could simply turn the barrel upside down. The lenses and spacer tube will fall out onto the towel.

Lens Orientation: The design uses two plano-convex lenses. They are positioned “belly-to-belly” like a pair of condenser lenses. The only eyepiece design I can find in various references with this configuration is labeled a Ramsden eyepiece. The image is mediocre and somewhat low in contrast. But it gets the job done. I can see the grain well enough to determine when the enlarger is precisely focused.

The two lenes are separated with a thin blackened brass tube spacer of OD = 0.4524” (11.49 mm), ID = 0.393” (9.96 mm), length = 0.221” (5.61 mm). If you place the lenses on their flat sides on a sheet of white paper on a tabletop under good light, you can see that one lens is slightly thicker than the other. The thinner lens is mounted closest to the user’s eye. The marginally thicker lens is mounted at the bottom of the barrel, with the two lenses separated by the length of the spacer.

Both lenses and their spacer tube can only be inserted or removed from the bottom end of the threaded barrel. Disassembly and assembly are most easily done with the Japan Hobby Tools Lens- Sucker tool using the smallest diameter (about 5 mm diameter) suction cup in the kit. That makes positioning the lens easy without touching it with thumb and fingers.

I tried orienting both lenses with their flat sides facing upwards as in a Huygens eyepiece. It worked, but the image quality was degraded compared to that of the original orientation.

While it is possible to reposition the target reticule within the barrel of the chassis, it is a bad idea, as it was properly positioned by the maker at assembly.

The second version uses a tough, grey plastic body, with a thin sheet metal index reticle that makes indexing the eyepiece to your eyesight somewhat difficult due to the thickness of the reticle. That makes the edges of the reticle indistinct and produces a “rainbow of color” at the outer edges (due to diffraction, I suppose).
 
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In answer to post #11.

I own 2 Scoponets. They’re 20X. The two plano-convex lenses are uncoated and require the user’s eye positioned quite close to the eyepiece. Realistically, this is optically no better than the Paterson Micro Focuser. I find the view of the Paterson brigher and easier to use. The view has less contrast than that of the Paterson. Nonetheless, the Scoponet was the only focuser I owned for the first 15 years of my darkroom work.

One thing to keep in mind: All focusers work best when you close the aperture on the enlarging lens about 1 stop from wide open. That refines the view considerably, making it much easier to focus the enlarger accurately. If you already own the Paterson Micro Focus Finder, the Scoponet offers no practical advantage.

You might find the following Scoponet Notes useful:

Scoponet (France)

Thomas Instruments Scoponet 20X, uses two 2-element uncoated plano-convex lenses. The base to the center of the mirror is 105mm. The eyepiece tube is 45°from vertical. The mirror’s normal axis is 22.5° from vertical.

The first version was built on a cast aluminum alloy body. It is packaged in a tall yellow box with black horizontal bands at the top and bottom. The top of the box is marked, “Verifcateur de Mise au Point, SCOPONET por Agrandisseurs, Imp. Cart. CELLE & Gullin, St. Chamond.

The foil label on the base of the Scoponet reads,”Scoponet, Ets M. Torret, FRANCE.” The index reticule is on a thin, transparent plastic disc.

Disassembly: The barrel must be unscrewed from its receiver at the top of the instrument. The two lenses and their spacer are retained by a threaded brass retainer ring at the bottom of the barrel. The bottom of the retainer is flat and can only be turned by friction, since there are no drive slots. It bears against the bottom lens, so obviously, it can’t be tightened by much. Otherwise, the clamping force might damage the glass.

The retainer can be turned with the friction of one’s thumb. A better choice is the smallest tapered rubber ring in the Japan Hobby Tools rubber lens-opener set. The small end is the ideal size to drive the retainer while clearing the ID of the barrel.

It would be a good idea to set a white towel over the opening of a plastic dishpan and work there so that the parts don’t fall to the floor and get lost or damaged. Once the retainer is removed, you could simply turn the barrel upside down. The lenses and spacer tube will fall out onto the towel.

Lens Orientation: The design uses two plano-convex lenses. They are positioned “belly-to-belly” like a pair of condenser lenses. The only eyepiece design I can find in various references with this configuration is labeled a Ramsden eyepiece. The image is mediocre and somewhat low in contrast. But it gets the job done. I can see the grain well enough to determine when the enlarger is precisely focused.

The two lenes are separated with a thin blackened brass tube spacer of OD = 0.4524” (11.49 mm), ID = 0.393” (9.96 mm), length = 0.221” (5.61 mm). If you place the lenses on their flat sides on a sheet of white paper on a tabletop under good light, you can see that one lens is slightly thicker than the other. The thinner lens is mounted closest to the user’s eye. The marginally thicker lens is mounted at the bottom of the barrel, with the two lenses separated by the length of the spacer.

Both lenses and their spacer tube can only be inserted or removed from the bottom end of the threaded barrel. Disassembly and assembly are most easily done with the Japan Hobby Tools Lens- Sucker tool using the smallest diameter (about 5 mm diameter) suction cup in the kit. That makes positioning the lens easy without touching it with thumb and fingers.

I tried orienting both lenses with their flat sides facing upwards as in a Huygens eyepiece. It worked, but the image quality was degraded compared to that of the original orientation.

While it is possible to reposition the target reticule within the barrel of the chassis, it is a bad idea, as it was properly positioned by the maker at assembly.

The second version uses a tough, grey plastic body, with a thin sheet metal index reticle that makes indexing the eyepiece to your eyesight somewhat difficult due to the thickness of the reticle. That makes the edges of the reticle indistinct and produces a “rainbow of color” at the outer edges (due to diffraction, I suppose).

Thanks, Ian. That's what I figured, but I wanted to see if anyone had a better experience and found Scoponet to be better than the Paterson Micro. I think I'll stick with the Paterson since it works really well for me. I’ve had no issues at all—it's just a bit plasticky for my taste, but that’s not a big deal.
 
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Thanks, everyone! It's much appreciated. I know which light table and loupe to look for, but I still need to decide on the grain focuser. The Peak model, recommended as the best, isn't easy to find in Europe unless bought from Kienzle, which makes a similar one.
 

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For grain focus, I have nothing new to add. I use the tall blue painted one that looks like the micro-sight. If I stumble over a good deal on the Peak model 1/ Omega one I will likely pick one up. they are nice.

I also use the Peak anastigmat 4x and a little Horizon model for 35mm that I got from Freestyle in the 90's

If space or occasional portability are issues at all, I highly recommend the light panel from rflx lab The light is nice and even, and the price is right. I can't comment on longevity as I've only had mine for about 1 year. I think it's 1/2 price compared to the same size offered by Kaiser.

https://reflxlab.com/products/reflx-lab-slide-viewer
 

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As for grain focusers, there is nothing that beats the Peak Model I, in my opinion.

As for loupes, I use this. Does the job effortlessly.


My LED panel is a no-name one covering the size of my negative pages.
 

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My Scoponet was often seriously off due to a shim beneath the base which changed thickness with humidity fluctuations. I got rid of it, and ever since have used a Peak 1 with the tilting head - it's well worth the extra cost.

For a light table magnifier (as opposed to ground glass viewing with view cameras), I use a big 7X Edmund unit with a cutout in the clear skirt below. This allows a retouching instrument to be inserted if desired. The last time I checked, these now run $120. I have various other magnifiers, but this is the most versatile, and it has a comparatively large area of view, capable seeing full 6X7 cm. I keep a separate 10X smaller loupe nearby for sake of homing in on fine grain or extreme detail.

Light boxes are a more complicated topic, especially if one seeks objective viewing of color transparencies and not just black and white negatives. In that respect, you get what you pay for. Quality lightboxes meant for serious color analysis are inherently expensive. Don't be fooled by claims on cheap units. First of all, there needs to be a full spectrum source, then all the internal reflective paint, and even diffuser itself, have to be precisely offset to deliver a sum performance on the top surface of truly 5000K, with an actual high CRI of around 98, and no unevenness. This would also be critical is want to use the light box illuminate color transparencies for sake of copying with a camera overhead.

That being said, for casual use like sorting out slides and negatives, simply checking them out using a magnfier, or simply fooling around with black and white negs where precise color is irrelevant, then all kind of both commercial and home-made lightboxes should be fine. I have a big one of those just a few feet of me right now, which I made over 40 years ago. But out in the lab, I have a real-deal critical color one containing German true color matching tubes and a very special diffusion system. I employed the same kinds of expensive tubes at our company color matching stations back when I was involved in that kind of thing prior to retirement.

So it all depends. Just be aware that there tends to be a substantial BS coefficient factored into retail variety LED boxes and panels, as well as fluorescent ones,
in terms of their advertised and labeled CRI and color temp alleged specs . This might not matter at all, depending on your specific application, or it might matter a lot.
 
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If space or occasional portability are issues at all, I highly recommend the light panel from rflx lab The light is nice and even, and the price is right. I can't comment on longevity as I've only had mine for about 1 year. I think it's 1/2 price compared to the same size offered by Kaiser.

I am using my two Kaiser slimlite planos meanwhile for many years. No problems at all, they are working like on their first day.
Used the forerunner from Kaiser as well (a thicker, non LED lighttable), still have it, and that is also working perfectly for an even much longer time now.
All the Kaiser products I am using have never had a problem. I am using my oldest Kaiser product for almost 40 years now (enlarger V system).
And from direct contacts to the company I know they really care about quality and satiesfied customers.

Best regards,
Henning
 

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The best light boxes and viewing booths in this country were made by MacBeth, the same outfit as made the Color Checker Chart. They are now part of a larger company. You have to be careful buying old units because the special reflective paint might have discolored over time, and the tubes may very well have shifted performance. You can still buy all these things; and even B&H sells real deal replacements tubes from both MacBeth and Just Normlicht.

Seriously balanced LED arrays are a somewhat different topic. Those are expensive too, and have their own secondary issues. Like a tried to explain earlier, arriving at the desired endpoint is not just a matter of the internal illuminants, but of the comprehensive product, including its reflection and diffusion components.
It's quite difficult to achieve a true white reflective surface at a standardized color temp, and only the very best products do so.
 
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Peak also makes a very nice 10X loupe that can be had used for about $35. Sold as a "Scale Loupe" it comes with an etched glass scale which is easily removed by unscrewing the knurled black lower ring. Half the price of a "Photography Loupe" and you can stick the scale back in and measure tiny stuff if you want.

Grain focuser: Peak 1

Light table: LED 12x12 flat light fixture on dimmer. B&W only.
 
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I use the Magna Sight Grain Focuser 10X. It’s cheap and does the job! I prefer over some of the fancier ones because of the large area of view (I wear glasses).
 

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I am using my two Kaiser slimlite planos meanwhile for many years. No problems at all, they are working like on their first day.
Used the forerunner from Kaiser as well (a thicker, non LED lighttable), still have it, and that is also working perfectly for an even much longer time now.
All the Kaiser products I am using have never had a problem. I am using my oldest Kaiser product for almost 40 years now (enlarger V system).
And from direct contacts to the company I know they really care about quality and satiesfied customers.

Best regards,
Henning

My budget option may fail early, who knows. I had a chance to handle 2 Kaiser options at a local store, and I didn't feel like all of that plastic was worth the price. If the lights and circuitry are better inside, I will learn my lesson eventually. The Rflx lab version is built into a metal frame and the acrylic face has a texture. In either case, for me, a smaller led model is much better for my needs than the big 16x18 porta-trace model I also have.
 

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Peak also makes a very nice 10X loupe that can be had used for about $35. Sold as a "Scale Loupe" it comes with an etched glass scale which is easily removed by unscrewing the knurled black lower ring. Half the price of a "Photography Loupe" and you can stick the scale back in and measure tiny stuff if you want.

Grain focuser: Peak 1

Light table: LED 12x12 flat light fixture on dimmer. B&W only.

I agree with you here. Great focused and loupe.
 
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