Recommend me a 120 folder

[pbromaghin]

The Zeiss Super Ikonta BX 533/16 is probably the pinnacle of 120 folder design (save for the more recent Fuji/Voigtlander). The 532/16 is the same but without the bulky light meter on top.

Just what is there to be preferred between the 533 and 534 besides a few years? The later of the 533s have a slightly faster 80mm Tessar vs the 534's one-stop-slower 75. Both are coated. Same shutter. Just how inferior is the early uncoated 533?

 

[georg16nik]

.. Just how inferior is the early uncoated 533?

Are You talking about the early, uncoated 2,8 Opton?

 

[pbromaghin]

Are You talking about the early, uncoated 2,8 Opton?

I'm not sure when the Opton was used.

As I understand it, the Super Ikonta BX 533 started with an uncoated Tessar (Around 1937) and switched at some point (1946 or 1952) to a coated Tessar, both 2.8s. I can very easily be wrong about this.

 

[georg16nik]

I'm not sure when the Opton was used.

As I understand it, the Super Ikonta BX 533 started with an uncoated Tessar (Around 1937) and switched at some point (1946 or 1952) to a coated Tessar, both 2.8s. I can very easily be wrong about this.

533 is 50's camera.
530/16 and 532/16 started in the 30's with uncoated 2,8/80 Jena, then after the war there was a short run of uncoated 2,8/80 Opton, then it was coated.
You just need to come across well taken care folder, they all perform great.

 

[Ian Grant]

The Opton's were always coated. Carl Zeiss Jena started coating some Tessars in 1938/9 just before WWII and some wartime lenses were coated as well.

Ian

 

[georg16nik]

The Opton's were always coated. Carl Zeiss Jena started coating some Tessars in 1938/9 just before WWII and some wartime lenses were coated as well.

Ian

Ian, I have 532/16 with uncoated Zeiss-Opton #26523

 

[Ian Grant]

Ian, I have 532/16 with uncoated Zeiss-Opton #26523

I hadn't realised that someearly West German made Opton's were uncoated, by that time CZJ were coating their lenses. You live & learn

Ian

 

[georg16nik]

Tell me about it
There are some weird Zeiss camera/lens combos from around the war period

 

[j-dogg]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/pho/3009585645.html

Agfa Viking f6.3......can I run 120/220 through it?

 

[MattKing]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/pho/3009585645.html

Agfa Viking f6.3......can I run 120/220 through it?

Not without conversion, or fiddling with adapters for the spools.

Assuming of course that the manual pictured is the right one - the reference to "takes pictures this size 2 1/2 x 4? inches" indicates it is designed for something like 116 film.

 

[removed account4]

hi jdogg

i am confused whether it takes 120 film or not ...
after googling the name "agfa viking 6.3"
i found ebay selling pages with a close up of the winder
the winder says clearly, use "agfa pb-20 film"
when i googled THAT i learned that pb-20 is old 820 ...
( b2 is 120 )
but i also googled at the butkus manual site just to get a better idea
http://www.google.com/search?q=Agfa+Viking+f6.3&sitesearch=www.butkus.org
and it said it took 120 film ...

maybe there were several versions of this folder ?

it would be inexpensive enough just to get to see what yo could do with it, and if it doesn't work
you could probably sell it here, to a large format user, just for the lens

good luck !
john

 

[MattKing]

John (and j-dogg):

I think that the issue is complicated by the fact that there were several similar cameras under either the Agfa or Ansco name that used an f/6.3 lens.

The attached pix show an almost pristine example of a folder that uses 120 film which I would be happy to sell to j-dogg, except I expect he doesn't want a camera whose shutter is frozen