Recommend me a 120 folder

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waltereegho said:
The Zeiss Super Ikonta BX 533/16 is probably the pinnacle of 120 folder design (save for the more recent Fuji/Voigtlander). The 532/16 is the same but without the bulky light meter on top.
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Just what is there to be preferred between the 533 and 534 besides a few years? The later of the 533s have a slightly faster 80mm Tessar vs the 534's one-stop-slower 75. Both are coated. Same shutter. Just how inferior is the early uncoated 533?
 

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georg16nik said:
Are You talking about the early, uncoated 2,8 Opton?
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I'm not sure when the Opton was used.

As I understand it, the Super Ikonta BX 533 started with an uncoated Tessar (Around 1937) and switched at some point (1946 or 1952) to a coated Tessar, both 2.8s. I can very easily be wrong about this.
 

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pbromaghin said:
I'm not sure when the Opton was used.

As I understand it, the Super Ikonta BX 533 started with an uncoated Tessar (Around 1937) and switched at some point (1946 or 1952) to a coated Tessar, both 2.8s. I can very easily be wrong about this.
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533 is 50's camera.
530/16 and 532/16 started in the 30's with uncoated 2,8/80 Jena, then after the war there was a short run of uncoated 2,8/80 Opton, then it was coated.
You just need to come across well taken care folder, they all perform great.
 

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The Opton's were always coated. Carl Zeiss Jena started coating some Tessars in 1938/9 just before WWII and some wartime lenses were coated as well.

Ian
 

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Ian Grant said:
The Opton's were always coated. Carl Zeiss Jena started coating some Tessars in 1938/9 just before WWII and some wartime lenses were coated as well.

Ian
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Ian, I have 532/16 with uncoated Zeiss-Opton #26523
 

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Tell me about it
There are some weird Zeiss camera/lens combos from around the war period
 

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hi jdogg

i am confused whether it takes 120 film or not ...
after googling the name "agfa viking 6.3"
i found ebay selling pages with a close up of the winder
the winder says clearly, use "agfa pb-20 film"
when i googled THAT i learned that pb-20 is old 820 ...
( b2 is 120 )
but i also googled at the butkus manual site just to get a better idea
http://www.google.com/search?q=Agfa+Viking+f6.3&sitesearch=www.butkus.org
and it said it took 120 film ...

maybe there were several versions of this folder ?

it would be inexpensive enough just to get to see what yo could do with it, and if it doesn't work
you could probably sell it here, to a large format user, just for the lens

good luck !
john
 

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John (and j-dogg):

I think that the issue is complicated by the fact that there were several similar cameras under either the Agfa or Ansco name that used an f/6.3 lens.

The attached pix show an almost pristine example of a folder that uses 120 film which I would be happy to sell to j-dogg, except I expect he doesn't want a camera whose shutter is frozen
 

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