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Recognition, titles: Fostering improvement or vanity and gatekeeping? - e.g. Royal Photographic Society's ARPS and LRPS

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I was curious about the Royal Photographic Society and had a brief look at the 'ARPS' title that one can apply for with them. My curiosity revolved around the question how to interpret the title - i.e. what does it really mean in the real world?

A brief summary as I understand the process: one becomes member of the RPS, then applies for the ARPS title (or the lower-level LRPS; Associate resp. Licenciate or the RPS), which involves submitting a modestly sized body of work within strict guidelines. Based on expert judgement (I could not find who these would be, how many or what specific criteria would be applied) the RPS decides whether or not to grant the title. The title can then be used by the member for as long as they remain a member of the RPS, which involves payment of its annual membership fee.

I do not know, nor do I get a clear picture of what the ARPS title really constitutes, or how it might help advance a photographer's practice (whether as a hobby, or professionally). Could anyone shed some light onto this?

What I can glean is that the RPS organizes a kind of advisory sessions where people can bring their work and they receive some advice (supposedly on composition and technique, but again, I don't really know) - including advice on whether or not to apply for an LRPS or ARPS title.

If one would look at this from a highly cynical viewpoint, the whole thing looks like a kind of pyramid scheme with a built-in gatekeeper function. Lure in as many punters as possible so as to ensure a stable or growing cashflow, but ensure that there's a desirability to being allowed in by feigning scarcity. But I'm aware that this might be too critical a perspective to take. Still, the question of what the value and relevance of the titles really is. Perhaps they're designed to serve mostly as a stimulus for photographers to develop themselves? If that's the case, then that hinges on the titles functioning as some kind of badge of honor. Does it work that way, or is there more going on?

I'm aware that the RPS offers all manner of services and engages in activities that IMO are arguably beneficial to the photographic community - think of maintaining collections, organizing exhibitions and workshops, putting young talent in the spotlight. But what's up with the titles?

Is there something to the British art ecosystem that makes it easier for aspiring photographers to succeed if they have an LRPS or ARPS?
Are there perhaps photographers active on this forum who have experienced benefit from these titles - and if so, in what way? Conversely, are there photographers who considered or even in the past obtained such a title, but walked away from it because of a lack of a clear value proposition?

Speaking more in general:

What kind of role does the assessment of experts associated with a society or club like the RPS play in the advancement of photographic practice? Is it a simulus, or does it result in cementing some sort of conservatism?
For photographers, what benefit is there to potential 'vanity' activities like obtaining a title that's essentially paid for (not specifically/necessarily those of the RPS; see questions above), or vanity exhbitions or publications?

To give a tiny bit of context, insofar as it matters: people have proposed to me that I would organize an exhibition of my own 'work', but I never found a solid reason to do so, so I always turned it down. I have a friend (not a photographer) who is in the process of self-publishing a book he wrote (basically a memoir) and intends to sell copies to at least make up for the investment. And while I've read it with pleasure because, well, he's my friend - it's something I would probably never do, as again, I don't quite see the point in doing so. So I find these things puzzling, somewhat iffy/uncomfortable sometimes, although at the same time I find them rather amusing as well.
 
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While a bit of a cynical perspective, it's not unrealistic or unwarranted. Many professional certification boards exist that are equally questionable. Whether they are worth it or not seeems quite debatable.
 
I think a better comparison is not the business oriented Professional Photographers associations, but rather the Canadian organization known as CAPA: "Canadian Association for Photographic Art".
Here is their "Benefits of Membership" page: https://capacanada.ca/the-benefits-of-joining-capa/
Our Darkroom Group is a club member, and the other club I was a member is also a member. Over the years, I've known lots of people who are heavily involved in CAPA, have achieved accreditation in their judging courses, and provide a lot of enthusiasm and support to others who are interested in photography.
The benefits that flow from these sorts of structures may be less obvious in the internet age. But at least formerly, the structure and connections created help counteract the tendency for photographers to be isolated. It built a skeleton around which social groups like camera clubs could build.
I expect that the RPS initially served as a great connecting structure that helped photographers both pursue a pastime and/or organize a business in a way that united everyone from the north tip of Scotland to the south tip of England, with connections as far west as Northern Ireland and Wales.
To a certain extent, it probably still does.
Whether or not the RPS titles still make sense is probably a reflection of the local photographic conditions. Having common goalposts doesn't necessarily help, or hurt.
 
Thanks for that perspective @MattKing. Mind you, I don't contest the usefulness of professional associations, nor of associations like CAPA or RPS, which I recognize. I'm very specifically addressing the question of the utility of titles and other formalities that I find hard to connect to the otherwise useful activities and benefits of such organizations.
 
The titles reflect the structure and the realities of former times, when long distance communication was limited to the written word, telephone, or telegraph, but I can see some modern relevance.
They provide evidence of some commonality of knowledge and experience - much like academic degrees and trade accreditations - and by doing so assist us in long distance communications.
If you have an RPS designation, you will have studied/been exposed to/accomplished many of the same things that others with the same designation have.
For example, the fact that I have a Canadian common law law degree tells people there are certain things I've studied and most likely understand, so I can talk to someone in New Brunswick or even Australia who has attained a similar level of legal education and we will share some important commonalities of understanding.
There are even some things that I will share with legally trained people in that weird legal backwater just south of me here, near the 49th parallel. :smile:
Or I can refer to William Wegman to others, and unbidden images of Weimaraners will be common to all :smile:.
 
Yes, I understand that the title is a symbol of having gone through some kind of a formative procedure. But the questions remain:

1: What knowledge, competencies, norms and behaviors are involved in the specific case of these particular titles? (I understand the parallel with the legal system, academia etc. but these are for various reasons really different from what I'm referring to!)

2: For e.g. the LRPS and ARPS titles most of what I can find revolves around a single, 'passive' formative moment: i.e. the assessment of a submitted portfolio. How does this relate to the formative process that would be involved in #1?

3: Assuming that the value is in the formative process and alignment of norms, behaviors etc., what purpose does the title really have? Should it be understood as a relic from a past era as you suggested earlier - and if so, how has it been superseded? I.e. what mechanisms does the online world offer to recognize one's peers, assuming that's relevant to begin with?

It seems that a couple of things might be involved: (a) some process of instruction or socialization; but that has remained implicit so far, (b) a rite of passage of some form in which the title is granted, and (c) the title itself, which might either be something like Freemason's handshake or could potentially be something more externally oriented - but here, too, I'm struggling to see what value-generating mechanism there would be.

In the case of a professional association as referred to by @AnselMortensen, the potential value looks more concrete to me - they offer access to things like insurance, advice regarding copyright issues, discounts on...stuff. They also do certifications, and here, again, the value proposition is much clearer. It's a seal of approval that supposedly helps photographers in the marketplace. The RPS doesn't seem to focus on this per se, and I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Moreover, as it's not aimed at pro photographers very clearly, and what I read online involves amateur photographers applying for these titles, I'm left rather puzzled about what these titles would mean in those instances.

PS: to be clear - this is not a critique of the RPS or any other organization offering such titles. Even if they boil down to the photographic equivalent of a "world's greatest dad" mug, that's all fine. My interest is in those who purchase the mug and why they feel it's such a nice one to have.
 
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Perhaps one of our UK members could chime in with their perspective.
 
I know nothing about the organizations you're referring to. But many trade groups and associations are just ways of keeping out competition in the related field. Members can keep the prices higher. It also allows group organizers to get rich from the dues they collect.
 
Other than HonFRPS, which is handed out to eminent artists/ scientists who have made genuinely significant contributions to the art/ science of photography, the rest of the post-nomials seem to largely appeal to the sort of person who would insist on putting 'BA (Hons)' after their name in all situations.

The work that is produced is simultaneously the sort of insipid, sentimental-to-the-point-of-emetic stuff that camera-clubs have belched forth for nearly two centuries (a world in which Cartier Bresson is still dangerously avant-garde, never mind Robert Frank) and status conscious in the worst way, and largely well below degree standard (and would hence get critiqued mercilessly by the sort of people they hand out Hon FRPS to). It's also pay-to-play in ways that higher education qualifications largely aren't, and matters even less in the better end of the commercial/ art world, where the quality of your work matters far more than some bit of paper or alphabet soup appended to your name.
 
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@koraks, we clearly need a current ARPS to explain the positive side. Whenever I’ve read about the RPS, I’ve had the same thoughts that you describe.

What’s that word you use quite often? Normative? Isn’t the structure of a society like the RPS bound to be normative? I doubt it’s a place for free spirits.
 
Some people seem to crave that sort of thing. Some don’t. For whatever reason(s)…
 
Perhaps one of our UK members could chime in with their perspective.

OK, I guess this is somewhat aimed at me as I have put ARPS after my name on my latest book. All that has been previously said is quite true and titles/qualificatitions are quite meaningless in general (photographic education, like education in general is just about jumping through criteria hoops). At the end of the day It is only your images that matter. Many years ago I studied AIP over a 3 year full time college course that was very technically orietated, think studio work, lens formulations, developer constituents, multi formats, commercial orientation etc. At the time the RPS was the only organisation I was aware of that valued artistic photogrphy. All I wanted to do was get outside and photograph what I found of interest and explore the art of image timing and composition. So for me the RPS was a natural home. But as others have pointed out, it has many faults and I would hope in the course of time these can be corrected. They have awarded HonFRPS to some people I think are no better than us lesser mortals.
 
I was curious about the Royal Photographic Society and had a brief look at the 'ARPS' title that one can apply for with them. My curiosity revolved around the question how to interpret the title - i.e. what does it really mean in the real world?

A brief summary as I understand the process: one becomes member of the RPS, then applies for the ARPS title (or the lower-level LRPS; Associate resp. Licenciate or the RPS), which involves submitting a modestly sized body of work within strict guidelines. Based on expert judgement (I could not find who these would be, how many or what specific criteria would be applied) the RPS decides whether or not to grant the title. The title can then be used by the member for as long as they remain a member of the RPS, which involves payment of its annual membership fee.

I do not know, nor do I get a clear picture of what the ARPS title really constitutes, or how it might help advance a photographer's practice (whether as a hobby, or professionally). Could anyone shed some light onto this?

What I can glean is that the RPS organizes a kind of advisory sessions where people can bring their work and they receive some advice (supposedly on composition and technique, but again, I don't really know) - including advice on whether or not to apply for an LRPS or ARPS title.

If one would look at this from a highly cynical viewpoint, the whole thing looks like a kind of pyramid scheme with a built-in gatekeeper function. Lure in as many punters as possible so as to ensure a stable or growing cashflow, but ensure that there's a desirability to being allowed in by feigning scarcity. But I'm aware that this might be too critical a perspective to take. Still, the question of what the value and relevance of the titles really is. Perhaps they're designed to serve mostly as a stimulus for photographers to develop themselves? If that's the case, then that hinges on the titles functioning as some kind of badge of honor. Does it work that way, or is there more going on?

I'm aware that the RPS offers all manner of services and engages in activities that IMO are arguably beneficial to the photographic community - think of maintaining collections, organizing exhibitions and workshops, putting young talent in the spotlight. But what's up with the titles?

Is there something to the British art ecosystem that makes it easier for aspiring photographers to succeed if they have an LRPS or ARPS?
Are there perhaps photographers active on this forum who have experienced benefit from these titles - and if so, in what way? Conversely, are there photographers who considered or even in the past obtained such a title, but walked away from it because of a lack of a clear value proposition?

Speaking more in general:

What kind of role does the assessment of experts associated with a society or club like the RPS play in the advancement of photographic practice? Is it a simulus, or does it result in cementing some sort of conservatism?
For photographers, what benefit is there to potential 'vanity' activities like obtaining a title that's essentially paid for (not specifically/necessarily those of the RPS; see questions above), or vanity exhbitions or publications?

To give a tiny bit of context, insofar as it matters: people have proposed to me that I would organize an exhibition of my own 'work', but I never found a solid reason to do so, so I always turned it down. I have a friend (not a photographer) who is in the process of self-publishing a book he wrote (basically a memoir) and intends to sell copies to at least make up for the investment. And while I've read it with pleasure because, well, he's my friend - it's something I would probably never do, as again, I don't quite see the point in doing so. So I find these things puzzling, somewhat iffy/uncomfortable sometimes, although at the same time I find them rather amusing as well.

RPS titles are little more than a few letters bhind your name on your business card. It might get you a job here or there but don't count on it and it's only good as long as you're paid up. It's mainly good for the RPS and possibly for your ego. BY THE WAY,my expert judge on printing was Tim Rudman, who said that my content and subject matter was so-so but my printing made the submission a success. Now, that meant something to me.
Ralph W. Lambrecht, ARPS
 
Sometimes organizations like that are worth supporting because of the greater good they do...
 
OK, I guess this is somewhat aimed at me as I have put ARPS after my name on my latest book.

Not exactly @cliveh ,
I posted what I posted because prior to your post everything came from those of us who are outside the photographic environment where one might, or might not seek to earn the titles, or possibly rely upon them.
We don't really know what photographic enthusiasts in the UK expect of them, what use educational institutions might make of them, or what they might signify to those who might regularily encounter those who have them.
They might be very valuable, and they might not - in it nearly impossible to tell from a distance.
I have two university degrees, and I have a certain pride in that. But I only reference them in the specific circumstances for which they have some relevance.
I also earned some badges as a Boy Scout, but I never refer to them :smile:
One question: do any of the former colonies participate in the RPS. To the best of my knowledge we don't here in Canada, but I don't know if we once did.
 
Yeah, we bailed out after the British burn Washington DC 😅

I get exhausted looking at how hard artists work. My wife worked at a non-profit out East then here at the University of Iowa as a curator. Not sure people here say anything other than education and experience.
 
Not exactly @cliveh ,
I posted what I posted because prior to your post everything came from those of us who are outside the photographic environment where one might, or might not seek to earn the titles, or possibly rely upon them.
We don't really know what photographic enthusiasts in the UK expect of them, what use educational institutions might make of them, or what they might signify to those who might regularily encounter those who have them.
They might be very valuable, and they might not - in it nearly impossible to tell from a distance.
I have two university degrees, and I have a certain pride in that. But I only reference them in the specific circumstances for which they have some relevance.
I also earned some badges as a Boy Scout, but I never refer to them :smile:
One question: do any of the former colonies participate in the RPS. To the best of my knowledge we don't here in Canada, but I don't know if we once did.

I never got past Webelos, one week at Boy Scout camp watching a bunch of nincompoops get poison ivy and sunburned beyond belief and I was done.
I can start a fire (and put one out). Be Prepared, best advice one can get. Telegraphy and Typesetting there's a couple of badges I'd like. Probably don't offer cool stuff like this anymore.
 
I'd like to thank everyone so far for responding and sharing your views - with a particular acknowledgement and gratitude to @cliveh and @RalphLambrecht for sharing your first-person perspectives. If I may ask as a follow up: what were the rationales for both of you to pursue the title? I understand that perhaps in hindsight you may look at things differently. But how did you feel/think about it when you applied, and what expectations did you have?

Also, thanks @RalphLambrecht for mentioning that specific bit of useful feedback you received from Rudman. Has it somehow altered your perspective on your own work, or gave it a new direction? Just wondering; it's not directly related to the central questions.

What’s that word you use quite often? Normative? Isn’t the structure of a society like the RPS bound to be normative? I doubt it’s a place for free spirits.
I acknowledge that I'm critical of things that look like cliques to me, so yes, that's part of the queasiness I feel. Yet, I understand that there can be more going on than what I can see from my comfy chair.

Sometimes organizations like that are worth supporting because of the greater good they do...
Sure, so I definitely understand why one would pay their membership fees. But what's up with the title? That doesn't seem to advance the RPS or its goals and it must be primarily about the photographer. If that's not the case, I can sort of see it as a means to lock in subscribers (if you bail out, you lose the title), but that doesn't sound like the kind of thing you'd want to do as an idealistic organization, would it?
 
I can offer my perspective from the UK on the RPS. I joined in 1980 seeking an alternative to the camera club culture that I found uncomfortable. The intention was to hopefully progress through the three levels of distinction (L, A&F) using them as a measure of my photographic development. Another attraction was that submissions for the higher awards (Associate & Fellowship) required genre-specific work presented as a cohesive thematic panel. I preferred this method of constructive working over the competitive nature of club photography, it allowed me to explore a theme and create a panel from a body of work.

The society previously organised distinction workshops and portfolio reviews, but in recent times much has changed with the majority of advisory activities now conducted online.

The RPS distinctions are often viewed as amateur awards and would not provide any advantage in the UK, and I accept that for many the attraction is vanity and perceived status within a community. In my case however the objective was to improve my photography. Twenty-five years ago I was awarded a fellowship (FRPS) in the visual arts category for a panel of twenty black and white darkroom prints, and looking back at that panel now it is a long way from the work I produce today.

Currently my only interest within the society is the analogue group that thankfully is thriving. Regrettably the society is changing and is in the process of publishing a new distinction criteria.

The RPS probably isn’t for everyone but it worked for me, however I don’t know how long I will remain a member.

David Lingham FRPS
 
@David Lingham thanks for sharing your perspective; it makes good sense to me. So to sum it up, the value of the 'title' wasn't so much in that, but the stimulus it provided for you to develop your own work into a certain direction. Can you tell a bit more about how the RPS supported this development process? I see that as particularly relevant.
 
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