RB67 pistol grip?

[keithwms]

John, with the L bracket you do support the camera from underneath, as was pointed out in post # 21, if not sooner. If you use the L bracket as it is meant to be used, and as described in post #21, then there will be virtually no torque on the wrist. It's just like the vertical grip orientation that 35mm sports & wildlife shooters use and feels similar. Even if the right hand goes away for quite a while, it actually feels quite comfortable and stable (n.b. I am weak according to Tim, so if I can do it...) but in the worst case the camera simply rolls 90 degrees into a comfortable hang. I have walked around with the rb hanging like that and it's totally fine. No stress on the wrist.

Torque is definitely not on your side with a vertical pistol grip underneath: any instability, and the full weight torques the wrist, big time. That balance is okay if your second hand is there keeping it steady at all times, but what if the second hand swats at a bee for a second... then you have five pounds balanced on the wrist in a wine glass position, as opposed to the much stronger palm-up position or in a natural hang (unless you don't mind your wrist doing a 180 rotation with a 5 lb load on it).

Adapting a pistol stick to an rb is not clever engineering, sorry. It's a bad idea. Anyway what would I know about torque and moment of inertia; I am just a physicist.

You know what, this really isn't worth discussing. As previously noted, people have been happily using the L grip for ages. Enough said.

 

[k_jupiter]

Show us your burly forearms Tim, you must be so proud

Did I actually say that this rig does not exist? Or if it did exist and you used it that'd you'd be doing something wrong?! I think what I said is that if it exists then the original poster wouldn't want one. I forgot that I am supposed to put "in my opinion" in front of every sentence I type.

I do use an rb handheld without any grip from time to time, that is doable. But the L grip is easy to use and suprisingly easy to hold.

..in my opinion, in my opinion...

Yes you did. "Even if such a device did exist, it'd not be something you want! "

But now I understand your point. You are a Physicist, I am an engineer. The difference between theory and reality. *L*

If you read my post earlier, I even described how I use it. The neck strap, the camera, the grip. It works really well 'if it exists'.

I suspect you will never know though. Theoretically speaking.

timin san jose

 

[keithwms]

lol

Tim, did I mention that I am an experimental applied physicist? Who teaches honors engineering students? Not the old chalkboard bloke who gave you the disappointing grade all those years ago

Kidding/ribbing aside, people should do what they feel makes them productive. That's all, right?

 

[k_jupiter]

lol

Tim, did I mention that I am an experimental applied physicist? Who teaches honors engineering students? Not the old chalkboard bloke who gave you the disappointing grade all those years ago

Kidding/ribbing aside, people should do what they feel makes them productive. That's all, right?

True.
And it wasn't that long ago. I graduated from engineering school in '92. An old student even then. I don't remember anyone calling me an honors anything.

I do robotics, a field I am very happy in. 'Applied' to the max.


tim in san jose

 

[keithwms]

In '92 I had my first beer. But that is another story.

This, gentlemen, is what I call a pistol grip.

 

[thisismyname09]

Well, this has certainly turned into quite a debate. I kind of feel proud to have sparked such a discussion. I'll be getting my grip tomorrow or the day after, along with a neck strap. I'll be sure to tell you all what I think. Also I think I should note that the pistol grip appeared to be ambidextrous, so I won't necessarily lose the use of my right hand...

 

[k_jupiter]

In '92 I had my first beer. But that is another story.

This, gentlemen, is what I call a pistol grip.

That might get you picked off by any number of law enforcement agencies.

I had my first legal beer in 1974. (Drinking age was 18)

tim in san jose

 

[Bosaiya]

Can you? Yes.

Should you? Hmmm...

 

[keithwms]

See now that red reptilian cover makes all the difference. I *must* get my rb pimped out! Anyway those forearms kind of make my earlier point, don't they?

 

[Papa Tango]

Thought about red, did both bodies and several backs in malachite green. If I had only done one red...

Oh well!

 

[keithwms]

Say, wouldn't it be cool if the tattoos matched the camera body? You could even incorporate a bellows factor chart on there, how handy.

 

[Bosaiya]

See now that red reptilian cover makes all the difference. I *must* get my rb pimped out!

The photos come out so much nicer!

Anyway those forearms kind of make my earlier point, don't they?

But which came first?!

Thought about red, did both bodies and several backs in malachite green. If I had only done one red...

Different backs have different colors to help identify the film inside. Much easier than the little metal slip-in area that seems designed to lose the ends of single-serve boxes.

Say, wouldn't it be cool if the tattoos matched the camera body? You could even incorporate a bellows factor chart on there, how handy.

After imbibing heavily enough to put on a hat like that everything starts to look related and deeply profound insights can be gleaned from the most mundane associations.

Or so I've heard.

 

[MattKing]

My question is:

Doesn't the reptilian cover scare the insects?

Matt

 

[archphoto]

OK, for those that want it to give it a try themselves: ebay 220390211862 (the grip)
Have fun !

Peter

 

[thisismyname09]

Despite the fact that most of the previous posts have been poking fun at me and my seemingly ridiculous grip, I still find this thread pretty funny. For any and all interested, I'm enjoying my "brick on a stick" quite a bit. As long as its held close to my body, or even better, pressed against it (like a rifle), its pretty stable.

 

[keithwms]

Why not helmet mount your rb. Let the neck muscles do the work