RB67 pistol grip?

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The RB manual does not say anything about it, but hell it could be worth a try.

Whether you will hold a RB comfortable with this one....... I don't know.
You will need a prism finder aswell to realy make use of it.

Peter
 
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I've been planning on getting a prism, but my current status with money forces me to buy things one at at time.
 

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Can imagine, I have the same problems at times.

A side grip could be a better option, I think, but they are are bit more expensive.
One needs dtrong hands and arms to hold a RB !

Good luck,
Peter
 

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The manual for my C330 shows that grip or one just like it. I would think it is for a the TLR cameras and intended for use with the sport finder. On the other hand, the left hand grip that I have fits both my C330 and my RB67, so this should also fit. Just don't know how practical it would be.

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Yeah, thats the C330 grip. I agree though that it would probably mount to an RB but I don't think it would help much. The RB is a lot heavier than a 330 and is balanced a lot differently. I think the 330 grip would be pretty uncomfortable holding an RB whether with a prism or waist level finder. There is a sport finder for an RB on the bay right now though. Can you imagine panning a F1 car with an RB67? I'd love to give it a try!
 
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Although I've only had my rb67 for a little while now, I really don't think its as heavy as everyone seems to say it is, so I bought the grip. I'm not so much concerned about distributing the weight better on my hands as the angle of my wrists. I don't like having to bend my wrists under the camera to hold it, so any vertical grip, be it under or to the side of the camera, should fix my discomfort.
 

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Yes, it will fit an rb67. A very nice setup with the standard viewfinder and a 65mm lens. use it and the neck strap to give you a very solid shooting platform.

tim in san jose
 

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ALL of the Mamiya grips are interchangeable between ALL bodies! Except the rangefinder cameras.
The Pistol grip has the advantage of allowing you to support the weight from below the center of gravity and is far more stable than the side bracket. With the side bracket the camera is at the long end of a lever & twists downward(clockwise) With the pistol grip you have no such tendency.
 

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k_jupiter said:
David,

I have a C220, I have a rb67, and I have that pistol grip.

tim in san jose
Click to expand...

I believe you. BTW, I have a C220, an RB67, an M645, and a grip that fits all 3!

I also believe that one can ask a question on apug and get two 180 degree answers.
 

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Here is another wrinkle or two.

All the Mamiyas you refer to can accept all of the grips mentioned, in that you can mount them on the cameras, but there are a couple of limitations.

For those grips that include some sort of trigger release, there are some incompatibilities.

For example, I had a left hand side grip that I believe was designed for one of the original M645s, but I found I could use it on one of my Mamiya M645 Supers, but not the other. It also wouldn't work on my Mamiya M645 Pro, or my Mamiya C330. The problem isn't with how the grip mounts, but rather with the physical interface between the trigger mechanism, and the (mechanical) trigger release on the cameras. All of these cameras have a trigger release in the same location on the body (bottom right corner, at the front) but the size and shape of the trigger release buttons varies slightly.

As far as I can tell, the RB67 and C330 trigger releases are identical in location, size and shape, so a grip that works on one should work with the other.

It appears to me that the trigger releases on my current Mamiya M645 Super, and my former M645 Super were significantly different so when I sold the former one, I made sure it was accompanied by the grip that worked with it.

Matt
 

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The "L" grip with trigger relese fits and works in both the C330 and the RB 67, I would think that the pistol grip would be very awkward to use with the waist level finder on both cameras because I find that with the left hand "L" grip I can use my right hand to steady the camera.

PS. If you buy one of the ones on link you put on to ebay get the one that says" Pistol grip C new old stock for $ 9 .99 It's the pistol grip model 2 that fits the RB as well as the Mamiya C TLRs , I just checked on my C330 system chart
 
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You definitely would not want to support an rb from underneath via a single-handed pistol grip. Hear me now, believe me later. Even if such a device did exist, it'd not be something you want! Unless you really want to bulk up your lower forearms and wrist muscles!

I do have the side grip for the rb with pistol release, and it is amazingly not bad. What ticks me off about it, though, is that it doesn't have a separate trigger or detent for MLU. It's an everything-goes trigger. I've been meaning to engineer an MLU option for a while.
 

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I agree with the last two posts, I think the L grip with trigger relese is a much better proposition because you can hold the camera and fire the shutter with left hand,while focusing, winding on and steadying the camera underneath with the right hand.
 

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If you search through the threads, the subject of shooting the RB handheld comes up over and over again. Obviously, thousands of professional and amateur photographers can't be wrong--and the left side grip is certainly a winner. Mine is attached to the camera body at all times--with the tripod lock plate on the bottom. The handle even makes it easier to set up for tripod use!

As to the MLU with the grip, here is what I have done. Normally, my Gossen Digiflash is inserted into the grip shoe--a pretty convenient place! I have another shoe adapter that is glued to the side of a Mamiya two cable release--the one made for MLU. I can use this as a complete release for handheld instead of the grip trigger--or remove it easily for off camera release when on tripod. Nothing to engineer--just screw one cable into the socket on the grip and the other on to the lens. Voila!

This same thing can be done by anchoring one short release to the grip with it facing backward toward you (same as the double cable)--and using the index finger to release the mirror via the grip trigger and the thumb to fire the shutter in the lens. I have used a scheme similar to this for over 20 years with flash frames and grips that did not have a trigger release built in to great success. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a little velcro and a couple zip ties...
 

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Zen of shooting one handed...


So does this mean that the photographs I took with a grip that doesn't exist, don't exist? Or that because I shoot like this occasionally, with a grip that doesn't exist, I am doing something wrong?

Teach me oh master. Oh weak (obviously) master.

tim in san jose
 

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No Tim, what it says is that you are using a grip designed for another camera in a way that for the vast majority of humans engaged in photography with an RB/RZ is an inconvenience and a hard way to try to do something. But, as long as it works for you and you are happy with it--have fun

I have been using these bodies for years. The idea of balancing about 5-7 pounds on a short stick does not strike me as fun--but then again I don't claim to weight lifter. With the mere pittance that Mamiya gear goes for these days we are only recommending to get the proper grip--the one made for the camera--as it is a lot more versatile and stable.

But if the fellow wants to try playing brick on a stick, well we are surely not stopping him!
 

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Show us your burly forearms Tim, you must be so proud

Did I actually say that this rig does not exist? Or if it did exist and you used it that'd you'd be doing something wrong?! I think what I said is that if it exists then the original poster wouldn't want one. I forgot that I am supposed to put "in my opinion" in front of every sentence I type.

I do use an rb handheld without any grip from time to time, that is doable. But the L grip is easy to use and suprisingly easy to hold.

..in my opinion, in my opinion...
 

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IMO again, I maintain that supporting the camera from beneath is more stable than the L bracket. It's called torque. When you support the camera without a bracket do you hold it from the side or form beneath?
 
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