Race.

[jtk]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...FHQb89psD16D2LZkVfI4gFvr8PkNZ5rZdNV3MrtIb9FxA

 

[DonW]

Interesting photography from the link. Why did you picked that particular photo to illustrate your post.

 

[Dali]

BTW, is it still politically correct to speak of B & W photography...?

 

[jtk]

Interesting photography from the link. Why did you picked that particular photo to illustrate your post.

Fair question. As a white man my particular selection had to do with my sympathy for Black Muslims when they were an influential part of emerging understanding of reality of Black lives in America. And I supported them financially by buying wonderful pies their bakeries sold door-to-door. EJM did preach hate, but I partially grew up in Alabama and hate is mainstream today, 60 years later on talk radio and a major TV network.

The entire article (about Black photographers) was an eye opener to me.

 

[BrianShaw]

BTW, is it still politically correct to speak of B & W photography...?

Even more correct these days... shows inseparable unity of black and white for common goal and vision.

 

[BrianShaw]

If one hasn’t eaten a bean pie, one hasn’t eaten a pie... or a bean!

 

[Vaughn]

“... I had nothing left; I was so weak, the camera was just too heavy.”

 

[jtk]

“... I had nothing left; I was so weak, the camera was just too heavy.”

Glad you're reading through that excellent blog. I learned a lot from it, how about you?

 

[Vaughn]

That rather powerful statement (in context and out) was a lot.

 

[jtk]

The photographer of the man in front of the Black Muslim temple is Ozier Muhammad

It's a fine photo in all sorts of ways.

 

[Daniela]

Wow, very touching photographs.
This one in particular spoke to me:

“We contain multitudes, and even in our struggle for fair treatment, justice and equality, we also reserve space for the peaceful and idyllic, the space to stretch our arms and our souls(..)"

 

[Valerie]

Thank you for sharing this, jtk. I'm heading back to the classroom/drkroom next month and will be sure my students see this!

 

[reddesert]

Thanks for posting this.

 

[AndyH]

Excellent blog. Thank you!
Andy

 

[jtk]

John Lewis : RIP

 

[MartinCrabtree]

It's about time reasonable discussion takes place regarding the correction of attitudes and practices towards each other. For far too long has it been ignored and swept beneath the carpet.

 

[CMoore]

Does a person have to be a NYT subscriber to read the link.?
Is it about Racism in Photography.?

 

[Deleted member 88956]

BTW, is it still politically correct to speak of B & W photography...?

B&W Photography has always had one implied meaning, no matter how hard anyone tries to make it not so. Whether one will end up in jail tomorrow for using the term does not change that either, nor will it ever.

 

[jtk]

Does a person have to be a NYT subscriber to read the link.?
Is it about Racism in Photography.?

No to both. Some devices may not be up to the task.

 

[Vaughn]

A 'Black and White' can be a police car, too.

Racism has been an accepted way of American white life for centuries. It is built into the system and enforced by the system, and the cure will have to be systemic -- no band-aid approach will do.

 

[BrianShaw]

You must not get out of your “American white life” much. Racism and bigotry is much more prevalent than that. In fact, it’s almost universal... all cultures and races and religions and lots more too... like Chevy v Ford and Nikon v Canon and film v digital. That’s why it’s so difficult to destroy. I’d challenge you on the “accepted” thesis you proposed, but that discussion might be better over a cup of coffee rather than a forum response that will likely be censored and get us banned.

 

[Vaughn]

Racism is common among all races, religions, and cultures. We are all racist. It becomes an serious issue when people use their power (voting, business, gov't, religious or other sources of power) to enforce their racism. We are not going to kumbaya our way out of this mess, there are systemic problems that need to be addressed.

 

[Deleted member 88956]

Now even photography as we knew it is in trouble too. There will be nothing left after this is "settled".

 

[MartinCrabtree]

Now even photography is we knew it is in trouble too. There will be nothing left after this is "settled".

Not so. Extremism is required to set true change in motion. Biggest problem is society changes at a glacial speed. On the surface it may seem different but deep down it's not so easy. However we must take the initial steps boldly. It won't be comfortable for many. If we are to survive as a culture it must happen.

 

[Deleted member 88956]

Not so. Extremism is required to set true change in motion. Biggest problem is society changes at a glacial speed. On the surface it may seem different but deep down it's not so easy. However we must take the initial steps boldly. It won't be comfortable for many. If we are to survive as a culture it must happen.

Right, so we start asking questions whether saying B&W Photography is OK, which draws answers as if it were something other than ... B&W Photography. Once these kind of connections are being found, the entire world is in trouble. A lot of things are what they've always been and have no connection to anything else, irrespective what they sound like or what individual words may mean in a different context.

Recently one hall-of-famer (black BTW) commented on one of the major's idea of putting all kinds of messages on players' jerseys. He had it exactly right: no matter what the times, people also want to just go to a game and enjoy ... the game, the sport they've come to love. They are not going to a game to hear more arguments or another debate on social injustice (or not). Taking a break from any kind of stressful situation helps to advance, no different when trying to getting fit, one must not only exercise, but also take rest., without the latter progress is not what it could be.

If a society, especially the part that shouts the most on any subject matter, really truly wants to fix an issue, it better stick to the problem in a rational way. What's been happening is not even remotely close to this.