Quarter frame 35mm cameras?

[jsmoove]

I only recently learned about the lomography action sampler camera....are there other cameras that expose 4 separate images on a single frame of 35mm film? Or is it the only one that can do this?

 

[BAC1967]

The View-Master cameras kind of do that. You get about 72 stereo pairs on a 36 exposure roll. That’s equivalent to 4 frames per normal 35mm frame.

 

[jsmoove]

They do 4 images on one single frame? In this fashion? https://imgur.com/a/F3DPyxW
Which models?

 

[BAC1967]

They do 4 images on one single frame? Which models?

No, one model shoots the pairs on the top spaced one frame apart. The next shot puts one frame between the last two. When you get to the end of the roll you turn a knob that switches from the top row to the bottom. You shoot that row as the film goes back into the cassette.

another model runs the film at a diagonal so one is on top and the other is on the bottom. You shoot to the end of the film and you are done. You end up with two rows and the same number of frames as the other camera. It’s kind of complicated, I hope I described it well.

 

[jsmoove]

How bizarre!
I think I'm looking for something similar to the action sampler format with 4 at a time all lined up ontop of each other going one direction, but somehow with a slower shutter speed?
I don't own one, but apparently they shoot the 4 images in 0.66 seconds....im needing slower, so that I can switch subject matter to have 4 totally separate photos.

 

[BAC1967]

So you’re trying to make a double diptych type photo? I have a lens hood that splits the image in half. It was made for a Polaroid pack film camera to give you the economy of two shots on one sheet of film. You take one shot on half the frame then rotate the hood to shoot the other half. I suppose you could make a 1/4 frame mask but you would need a camera that allows you to do multiple exposures per frame. Maybe mask off a UV filter and just rotate it for each shot.

I’ve never heard of a 1/4 frame camera until you mentioned the Lomography one, maybe there is something out there.

 

[BAC1967]

This is a shot I did with the half mask lens hood. You can see you do get a little fade in between the images.
Cedar in the Sky by Bryan Chernick, on Flickr

The Splitter by Bryan Chernick, on Flickr

 

[jsmoove]

Cool shot!
Yeah a double diptych. With the lines flush:
https://catalog.shop.lomography.com...c09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/e/pee_7_hi.jpg

I'm thinking I might need 4 separate shutters, or at least more time to work with, a pause function between shots...I don't own one of these lomo action sampler cameras, im assuming there is only 1 shutter if it shoots all 4 in 0.66 seconds.
I think I need the shutter to be in the inside with a single lens as opposed to a splitter to fit onto the lens in this case. Maybe I'll reach out to lomography and ask them how it works.

 

[Bronson Dugnutt]

Divying up a 35mm frame has only been done by a few purpose-built cameras. Pinhole is a good avenue for exploring multiplexing:

https://www.thephoblographer.com/20...hole-camera-with-25-pinholes-using-a-shoebox/

 

[jsmoove]

@Bronson Dugnutt That is definitely a thought, I would like a higher speed than a pinhole though,

I found: https://www.freestylephoto.biz/3541-The-Ultimate-Quad-Cam-Black-35mm
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/ultimate-quad-cam.6078/
Which says you can take one picture at a time....its discontinued, but maybe I can find one!
-Seems to be long gone...

 

[Bronson Dugnutt]

Replace all the pinholes with lenses, conjure a hypothetical focal plane shutter or work in 'bulb' mode with flash... but don't expect it to fit in your pocket

The most novel use of 35mm I've come across lately is a semi-super35 lomo joint https://shop.lomography.com/en/lomokino

 

[jsmoove]

Ha!
There is a camera that was called the "avant" that has a Polaroid back, so I suppose I could use the lenses from one of those.
That lomokino is super cool.

On a different topic, are there half frame cameras that have two lenses and two shutters, with the ability of shooting one at a time?

 

[macfred]

Some results wi the Lomo Quad Cam from the Lomography page : https://www.lomography.de/cameras/3316686-quad-cam/photos I guess it's the cam you looking for.

 

[macfred]

The Lomo Nimslo 3D Quad Lens 35mm film camera will give you four in one row : https://www.lomography.de/cameras/3330787-nimslo-3d/photos

 

[jsmoove]

Thanks, the Nimslo doesn't fit the requirements of being on a single 35mm frame though...
I'm after 144 exposures, or fitting two images on one 35mm frame

 

[AgX]

I'm after 144 exposures, or fitting two images on one 35mm frame

Half-frame 35mm cameras were common. Either as custome-made or small series versions of full frame SLRs, or as part of the range of type-Rapid cameras.

 

[jsmoove]

@AgX Are there half frame cameras that have two separate shutters for a 35mm area?

 

[AgX]

No, but the cameras I referred to above all expose only 1 18x24 frame and transport it only by 20mm.

The respective SLRs were made to please cheapskates and thus expose 72 frames on 135-36 film. Typical buyers were law-enforcement authorities.

 

[Kino]

The respective SLRs were made to please cheapskates and thus expose 72 frames on 135-36 film.

That's the most cynical description of the half-frame 35mm format I have ever heard...

 

[Cholentpot]

No, but the cameras I referred to above all expose only 1 18x24 frame and transport it only by 20mm.

The respective SLRs were made to please cheapskates and thus expose 72 frames on 135-36 film. Typical buyers were law-enforcement authorities.

I take offense to that!

I mean it is true though...

 

[ic-racer]

Many quarter frame cameras use 16mm film in a horizontal film path.

 

[AgX]

That's the most cynical description of the half-frame 35mm format I have ever heard...

The cameras I referred to were made this way just to save costs, it had no other benefit.

 

[jsmoove]

I'm definitely needing the output to be 35mm in size...basically, trying to stuff images flush with each other, within the 35mm frame.

Dumb question, but can I just cover 3 of 4 lenses in a quad camera if im wanting to expose images separately?
https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2019/03/polaroidpassportwetplatefeat-800x420.jpg

I'm not sure how the shutter works in the lomo action sampler.

 

[Donald Qualls]

im needing slower, so that I can switch subject matter to have 4 totally separate photos.

I recall reading about a mod to the Action Sampler or a similar camera that allowed firing the four quarter frame exposures individually -- or maybe it was a special model that switched between sampler and 4-shot. One of the 6- or 8-lens 3D cameras could do this as well.

And of course, the LomoKino shoots 8x24, and with care can do singles (like shooting a single bullet from a full-auto Sten, but possible).

 

[jsmoove]

@Donald Qualls Was it https://www.freestylephoto.biz/3541-The-Ultimate-Quad-Cam-Black-35mm ? This looked great but they don't seem to be around anymore.