QTR for 1280?

[wilsonneal]

I read all the great stuff about QTR and decided to order the Ron Reeder/Brad Hinkel book. Only after I keep reading do I realize that QTR might not be compatible with what I want to do. I want to use a 1280 with Epson inks to print digital negatives on OHP. Will the QTR method laid out in that book help me create properly curved negatives on the 1280 with OEM ink?

I've been working with my copy of Dan Burkholder's book to understand his approach to correction curves, but not really convinced it's the best system available today.

Thanks,
Neal

 

[pschwart]

I read all the great stuff about QTR and decided to order the Ron Reeder/Brad Hinkel book. Only after I keep reading do I realize that QTR might not be compatible with what I want to do. I want to use a 1280 with Epson inks to print digital negatives on OHP. Will the QTR method laid out in that book help me create properly curved negatives on the 1280 with OEM ink?

I've been working with my copy of Dan Burkholder's book to understand his approach to correction curves, but not really convinced it's the best system available today.

Thanks,
Neal

The 1280 can make digital negs using a number of different methods (but not all ink b&w using the native inkset). That said, the printer is obsolete and newer printers can do a much better job faster. My advice: do yourself a favor and get a new printer *before* starting on this journey. I replaced my 1280 with an R800 a couple of years ago and it is far superior for digital negatives. It has an ultrachrome inkset so you can use it for pigment color prints, too. Pictorico negatives can actually be washed and this ink won't smear. I liked the R800 so much that I got an R1800, too. Even these are now obsolete.
Maybe someone else in the forum can relate their experience with the Epson R1900 and 1400, or the HP 9180 or 8850.

 

[donbga]

I read all the great stuff about QTR and decided to order the Ron Reeder/Brad Hinkel book. Only after I keep reading do I realize that QTR might not be compatible with what I want to do. I want to use a 1280 with Epson inks to print digital negatives on OHP. Will the QTR method laid out in that book help me create properly curved negatives on the 1280 with OEM ink?

I've been working with my copy of Dan Burkholder's book to understand his approach to correction curves, but not really convinced it's the best system available today.

Thanks,
Neal

Neal,

If you look here:

http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRrequire.html

At the QTR requirements page you will notice that the 1280 is not expicitly supported for OEM inks. That is not for making digital inkjet prints.

As I mentioned in a previous e-mail the 1280 dye inks can potentially produce negatives of high UV opacity. In fact they can be so dense to UV light it can be difficult to dial the ink limits back if all of the inks are used together. The implication here is that only 1 or 2 colors will be needed to get proper negative density. That put's you right back into colorized negative territory. The pit fals there are blending colors that produce the desired densities and that don't produce grainy prints.

But to answer your question with a simple Yes or No: Yes the 1280 can be used with QTR and OEM inks. But be prepared to roll up your sleeves and spend time, money, materials, and sweat equity creating your first successful curve file.

Any way that's your simple answer.

If you want an easy get me started making prints from digital negatives with the 1280 you might wish to visit Keith Schrieber's web site and read his article discussing his modified method of colorized negatives.

http://www.zianet.com/jkschreiber/articles/1280PyroDigiNegs.html

This link will take you to his old website but never the less the information is the same. Please note, you will still need to create an adjustment curve. I have an old one made for pure palladium and 1 drop of 1.25% NA2 (1 for 10 if I remember correctly) on Cot320 which I can share with you if you wish.

Good luck,

Don Bryant

 

[wilsonneal]

Thanks to both of you for the feedback. I am shopping for a new printer. After a weekend trying to get this cheap, second-hand printer running, it's clear why they sold it cheap....it's got a bad printhead with magenta leaking.

The way it manifests itself is fine magenta lines outside the borders of the image. I've tried using various techniques found on the web for cleaning the underside of the head carriage and have convinced myself that it's just a leaky head. I found a replacement new printhead on eBay for $35, but feel like it's going to be good money after bad at this point. I've learned a good lesson for $40 and the cost of the ink...don't buy a used printer unless you know its history.

Think I am just going to screw up my courage and get a 3800 in the next few weeks.

Thanks,
N