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Today, this image is easily replicated through digital freeze frame video.

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But is that comparable to recording the image on film? I would say not, as it is a zen moment in time captured by human/mechanical response to that instance and so making that image unique.
 

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To me, no matter who took the picture or what technology/equipment was used… it’s still a boring and uninspiring image.
 

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But is that comparable to recording the image on film? I would say not, as it is a zen moment in time captured by human/mechanical response to that instance and so making that image unique.

And if you didn't know how it was captured?
 
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It is easy to capture with single frame release. (film or digital)
You practice and practice........................
In fact, you can easily do it, just press the shutter before they reach the spot where they will jump.
 

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For me, the importance of the image is the wave of recognition it created in the 'decisive moment' qualities possible with film. What is important about the image is that is was seen and created then. It informed that generation and future generations of photographers.

To say, "Anyone can do that now." misses the importance of its timing (pun intended).

Whenever I see that image I always think about how HCB said he never cropped, and the multitudes of people who have quoted him like a god that he never cropped, except this image is cropped....

I have not heard photographers quoting HCB on this as gospel (discussing it, yes). Where are these mulitudes quoting HCB as if He is a god. Very odd. 😎
 
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That shot was setup, it's glaringly obvious. What are the odds of someone just being in the perfect spot in the perfect moment? Slim to none, at best. I suspect many of Bresson's shots were setups. I'm not bothered by that, I still like many of his shots, but people like to create their own legend and continually feed it.
 

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It is easy to capture with single frame release. (film or digital)
You practice and practice........................
In fact, you can easily do it, just press the shutter before they reach the spot where they will jump.

That is what good photographers do.
 

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That shot was setup, it's glaringly obvious. What are the odds of someone just being in the perfect spot in the perfect moment? Slim to none, at best. I suspect many of Bresson's shots were setups. I'm not bothered by that, I still like many of his shots, but people like to create their own legend and continually feed it.

The moon landing was faked.
 

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This photograph is more than just a man jumping. He wil be landing in what he was trying to avoid, the water, and he will not keep his feet (and shoes) dry.
It's a symbol of the socio-economical situation of the French 3rd Republic during the interbellum...
This image is a not to mis understood political symbol, anchored in the European mind.

During that period, you Americans had people jumping from the buildings in the Wall street, we had people jumping to keep their feet dry (and to survive)!
 
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While it was cropped, what was cropped was some blank frame to the left and what looks like just more water. If the lens had not been blocked, the photo might not have been cropped. Then perhaps it might not have become so well-known.
 

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Louie Stettner put together an LP Famous Photographers Tell How. Among the photographers recorded, HCB discusses capturing the decisive moment, while Weegee says that the easiest picture to take is of a stiff, where one can work unhurried.
 

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While it was cropped, what was cropped was some blank frame to the left and what looks like just more water. If the lens had not been blocked, the photo might not have been cropped. Then perhaps it might not have become so well-known.

If, if if. He cropped to make the image stronger by improving the composition.
 

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HC-B is entitled to do with his pictures he thinks fit, who are we to judge?
 

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HC-B is entitled to do with his pictures he thinks fit, who are we to judge?

We are the viewer, and therefore we judge. I went to an HCB exhibit at a Leica Store a few years ago. There were about 70 of his photographs. I judged some of them good, some of them better, and some of them best. And some of them only worthy of a certificate of participation. It was a photo exhibit not a religious shrine. I am a pretty big fan of HCB, but he is not a god. He is not even Mary Poppins.
 
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Well, the fence board cropped one side of the image for him.

The fence board is an inanimate object and therefore did not crop one side of the image. HCB cropped one side of the image to exclude the fence board. The fence board, shockingly, was extraneous, as was the excess water at the bottom.
 

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We are the viewer, and therefore we judge. I went to an HCB exhibit at a Leica Store a few years ago. There were about 70 of his photographs. I judged some of them good, some of them better, and some of them best. And some of them only worthy of a certificate of participation. It was a photo exhibit not a religious shrine. I am a pretty big fan of HCB, but he is not a god. He is not even Mary Poppins.

Don't worry, I don't have any religious feeling, nor any other, to HC-B.
Never the less, I take a rather humble attitude towards him, but absolutely no idolatry.
And yes, not all the pictures he made are of the same level, who's are, but still...
In my humble opinion, shouldn't we only consider the final cropping, if it's made by the author, instead of discussing, after seeing the original negative, if he did well or not?
Cropping a negative is so personal, I think.

And, returning to the original topic, that fence (and the so called "excessive water"): shooting in the "le moment decisieve" mode happens so horribly fast that an object standing sidewards in the way is a very normal "accident de parcours"...
 

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I had no idea that HC-B used a Hasselblad or went to the moon. Live and learn... the amount of wisdom and knowledge on this forum astounds me sometimes!
 

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The fence board is an inanimate object and therefore did not crop one side of the image.

The fence board made that portion of the negative blank - that's all I meant. In terms of what Bresson could see while pressing the shutter, the fecneboard cropped his vision, preventing it from reaching the film.
 

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To me, no matter who took the picture or what technology/equipment was used… it’s still a boring and uninspiring image.

I find the same on all his pictures. Its of a place and time that has no relevance to me and he fails to give any relevance.......except of the boy caring the bottles of wine, that is possibly the best picture ever.
 
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