Pt/Pd prints - 1st image printed very good but the second gave me this ...

Minas Stratigos · Jun 28, 2018

Hello to this wonderful community,

I have been testing with Pt/Pd for some months and this week I managed to print my first image (using P.Mrhar method for the digital negative). Please see the Calla Lily attached. The second image using exactly the same process came out really bad (attached), any idea what went wrong? I tested my developer with a second print of the
Calla lily and it was perfect so my developer is not contaminated (ammonium citrate). Can be the application of the sensitiser on the paper?

Your feedback is much appreciated

Minas

Dan Pavel · Jun 28, 2018

Hello Minas.
Have you used the same paper for both prints?
The paper color seems different.

Minas Stratigos · Jun 28, 2018

Hello Dan,

Yes it is the same paper and exactly same process. My temp is steady at 22C and humidity was similar-57% to 61%. Color might be different a bit due to the different lighting when i took the pictures with my phone.

nmp · Jun 28, 2018

Assuming that the 2nd Calla print after the bad print was not coated at the same time (i.e. from the same mixed sensitizer) and everything else was exactly the same, I am guessing something went awry in mixing of the various components. It is easy to mess up the drop counting or to switch the bottles, something I am prone to do myself. If you are not able to recreate this problem, hopefully this was a one-off event.

Minas Stratigos · Jun 28, 2018

nmp said:
Assuming that the 2nd Calla print after the bad print was not coated at the same time (i.e. from the same mixed sensitizer) and everything else was exactly the same, I am guessing something went awry in mixing of the various components. It is easy to mess up the drop counting or to switch the bottles, something I am prone to do myself. If you are not able to recreate this problem, hopefully this was a one-off event.

Yes, the second Calla print was coated later this day using different sensitizer. I always coat my papers one by one as I let them dry in a box that fits one paper only.

Dan Pavel · Jun 28, 2018

Minas Stratigos said:
Yes, the second Calla print was coated later this day using different sensitizer.

This could explain the phenomena.
Try to reprint the second print and if this time it comes OK it could be a mistake in mixing/measuring the solutions in the sensitiser.

Otherwise, the Ferric Oxalate in the sensitiser could be too old or impure/improper mixed in solution.
A few months ago I've got some Ferric Oxalate solution from an ebay seller and faced the same problem with some Palladium prints - faded, yellowish colors with reduced contrast and no blacks at all. After changing the Oxalate with a proper prepared one everything was OK. Your faded print reminds me of how my PD prints looked.

Alan9940 · Jun 28, 2018

Dan Pavel said:
Otherwise, the Ferric Oxalate in the sensitiser could be too old or impure/improper mixed in solution.

This would be my guess as well. FO lasts, at most, about 6 months and tends to die suddenly.

Minas Stratigos · Jun 28, 2018

Alan9940 said:
This would be my guess as well. FO lasts, at most, about 6 months and tends to die suddenly.

I used the same FO for the second print that came out perfect, i bought it from http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk a couple of months ago so I guess is not bad. I have an order from B&S on the way.
Looks like the only explanation is a mistake in the mix. I will try again on in a couple of days and will post the result!

Thanks to all for helping out

Minas Stratigos · Jul 1, 2018

Minas Stratigos said:
I used the same FO for the second print that came out perfect, i bought it from http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk a couple of months ago so I guess is not bad. I have an order from B&S on the way.
Looks like the only explanation is a mistake in the mix. I will try again on in a couple of days and will post the result!

Thanks to all for helping out

I can confirm that it was a mistake in the mix, I managed to have a good print today (not very contrasty though), please see attached

NedL · Jul 1, 2018

So that's good! Whenever you pin down a correctable problem, it's a good thing! Nice print.

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