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Just received the prints today - what a lovely set, and I too shall write up some comments about each after I've stared at them for a while... Thanks heaps for everyone else's nice comments too!!

Stephen - my enlarger/lens combo: A Durst Laborator 1000 with a homemade LED lamphouse, and a Rodagon 150mm f5.6 lens...

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Print 18 - Glenn Mathison

Lovely interior shot is this building in Australia? i cant imagine it having been easy bracing against the wall for this exposure, it looks like it is quite a moody place. nice printing to retain the detail in the shadows.
Stephen, it was shot in Ghent in Belgium in a centruries old castle called the Gravesteen, you can Google it. It was a fascinating and slightly spooky place.

This room was at ground level but the stables/food store below ground were something else. It was also quite amazing to learn how they made toilets in the guardtowers where the guards could not leave their posts for long periods.

I also had some detail in the negative of external objects through the doorway but when I burned them in, I felt that it tended to draw the eye outside too much so I left them out in this print.

Glen Mathison – Arches at Gravesteen. Another brilliant picture and it would look great blown up to full size at the bottom of my stairs to appear as if you had entered the great hall from above. Can I ask is the edges of the print the masking easel or the frame boundary from the enlarger? I have made 3 trips to Belgium and never got to this area. Wish I had. I have an interest in the old construction methods and they way they can look in a photo graph when taken correctly and in the right lighting. Something I have yet to understand.
Andy, the image is slightly less than full-frame so the border on the print was created by the enlarger neg-carrier mask. The construction methods used in that buildng are AMAZING ...


Glenn: How I wish Australia had more of these truly old buildings... so photogenic. The grace of a simple vaulted ceiling amazes me every time I see one. I like your composition, and the positioning of the bright doorway (a portal to the future?) is just right. You did very well to get a handheld shot in such a dark spot as sharp as you have. (Re the lens fungus, maybe you should get a dry-cabinet to deal with the Brisbane conditions?)
Ian, fungus is a constant threat up here. The enlarger lens had some fungus when I bought it in Sydney a few years back but it is slowly growing. I look at some of the razor-sharp prints I was sent and just marvel at what is possible. It's good to have a target to aim for :smile:
 
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Steven Frizza yours of untitled self portrait 2002 looks so surreal, with such pronounced grain. Is this typical of what I could expect with IR film? Brilliant, but can it be processed with less grain in different circumstances?
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Yes HIE can be a lot less grainy I have processed it in tecnodol and been amazed by how fine grain it can be. For the untitled self portrait I sent you I wanted grain so I placed the film in kodak X-ray developer D-1. I processed it in stock solution at 20degrees Celsius and gave it constant agitation for 14 minutes. I was violent to the film in my processing because i happen to love this grain. my exposure time for each print was 3 and a half minutes...the neg was Dense! but it creates that flat eerie glow.
 

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Timk – Ulun Dog Bratan. The dog for me makes the picture. Was he still for long or were you fast enough to catch him before he decided to move on? I have never been to this part of the world, it is on the list, but who knows when I will get there.

Actually, he was pretty calm dog, I had another frame on the same roll of him sniffing his arse but decided the one I printed was a better look overall. Out of frame were some people who worked at the temple doing some gardening or something and I think the dog belonged to them.
 

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Actually, he was pretty calm dog, I had another frame on the same roll of him sniffing his arse but decided the one I printed was a better look overall. ...

I agree. You made the right decision.
 

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My turn for comments in no particular order.
1 Jeff (Trotkiller). I like this. Very well seen, I would have walked straight past this and not noticed. A good choice of film for the job. It gives it a gritty feel that suits the subject really well. A sad commentary on our world, but a great shot.

2 Tom (Tomalophicon). The first lith print I have seen in the flesh so to speak. Great subject, well composed, a terrific feel to it. Makes you want to be there and listen. Wonderful.

3 Steve. I really like this. The incoming cloud (did it rain), the boats in the bay, the toning in tea gives an impression of impending doom. I wish I had been there. Lucky bastard.

4. Mark (munz6869). I love all the lines in this. The first time I looked at it, I thought where do I look first, but, as I kept looking, it all made sense. The lines on the building in particular are wonderful. I like the composition, including the street signs was a good idea. The way the building is, it almost looks as though you went beserk with camera movements (but I know you haven't). Very cool.

4 Shane (SMBooth). I know exactly where you took this. Great shot. I like the way the middle tree trunk is lighter than the other two. The comosition sucks you and there is so much detail. I'm almost glad I didn't take this because I would have been tempted to try and get as much detail as I could in the sky....and I probably would have ruined the print. Love the carpet of leaves. Beautiful shot.

5 Kevin. You went on holidays and didn't bother to record the exposure. Shame! I would have done the same thing. The blur in the trees and boats and other plants is what makes this for me. It lets you know that nature is not static. The sky is just right. Not overblown or too dark. It balances the dark trees and makes you notice the boats in the middle ground more. I like.

6 Carey (Seabird). You picked my favourite subject. Perfect shutter speed, great composition and beautifully printed. You have made me think about using selenium toning for my prints. It has made this shot "pop". Very well done.

7 Warren (Wazza). I wish I had taken this shot. I really do. The composition is terrific. The printing is terrific. The subject matter is...well you which word. Again selenium toning was used. I must try this. I think the paper choice really suits this. What else can I say. Oh yes. Terrific.

8 I think it is Andrew Kirkby's. The Harbour Bridge. Great shot. The herringbone pattern leads you right into the shot. I normally try to exclude people from my shots, but I think in this the people in it make it. Without them it would have been almost sterile. I love the no fishing sign high up on the lamp post. It must have been very early in the morning to have no one else there except other photographers. Definitley worth getting up for this shot.

9 Steve (Frizza). What a wonderful experiment. So simple. So beautiful. For me, it played with my memories, bringing back times when I was young and playing with leaves just like this. Very evocative. Thank you.

And that's all folks.
My thanks to every one for providing me with very thought provoking images. Being able to see the things you like to shoot and how you print them has been an eye opener for me. I know that it will make me look at thinks differently, which is a good thing.

Mike
 

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I'll have to apologise for being so late in commenting on all the prints (and responding to comments) It's the first week back at the art school for me. I've got the prints I received in a little archival satchel for now, and I should be able to post some detailed comments when I get home tonight.

I'd like to say, just as a general comment for everyone, holy crap guys. Well done.
 

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6 Carey (Seabird). ... You have made me think about using selenium toning for my prints. It has made this shot "pop". Very well done.

Mike,

Thanks for your kind words. I'm also intrigued that both you and Stephen Frizza commented on the selenium toning of my print. I gotta say that the way MG IV RC takes selenium toning is one of the few things I dont like about that paper. Its hard to get much of a change in image tone - it is a very subtle move away from the greenish tinge of the untoned paper that I really dislike. It is certainly much more subtle than the old Agfa MC paper that used to be my standard paper.

Thanks again

Carey Bird
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Alright! Again, sorry I've been silent for so long, but I wanted to have a chunk of time in which to write some good solid feedback.

First, thank you everyone for the kind comments about the image I submitted, I'm glad people got a kick out of it.

Third print was by Apug member Fleath... A print from photographic Etch plate

This print is a real treasure, the work that went into it must have been insane!!! but the result is magic! this is the first etching plate print i have ever seen. I love how the process has embossed the paper what inks create this tone? it is really well suited. thank you for making us this.

Thank you very much for the kind words Stephen, I very much appreciate it coming from someone who's work I've enjoyed so much. The Ink I used wasn't anything special, just a stiff relief ink, so it wouldn't wipe out of the shadows. The colour itself was a bit of an ordeal, and again I relied on my friend Melissa's extensive experience in colour to help me mix a sepia that looked "right". Just Red, Blue and Green in the correct ratios.

Alexander: Lovely print! Like Stephen Frizza, this is the first one of these I have seen and I too love the way that it has embossed the paper. Such a lot of work, but the result is worth it! The process and the warm tone really complement the delicacy of the roses. How many prints can you run off a plate before it is too degraded?

Thank you!

In theory you can run off an indefinite number of copies, as much as a photographic negative can, but already the particular plate for this image has started to degrade. The material scratches reasonably easily, but is mailable, so the pressure from the etching press doesn't seem to hurt it too much. A copper plate photogravure would need to be clad in metal if more than 50 prints were to be made from it - the pressure from the press would slowly flatten the plate and the image would become blurry. As an historic aside, the fine images published in issues of Stieglitz' Camera Work magazine early last century were all hand printed copperplate gravures.

The convention, at least in the printmaking world, is to cancel a plate that has had an edition run from it. This involves cutting it in half, slashing it with a Stanley knife, or some other method of rendering it unprintable. I haven't canceled the plate as it's part of the body of research for my degree...and because I cant bring myself to do it just yet. I wont print a second edition from this plate. So, rest assured there's only 10 editioned prints, 2 proofs, and 3 imperfect prints. And one test printed in a gaudy kind of orange, which was a bad idea...

On to the important stuff!
In no particular order...

Glenn - Arches at the Gravesteen
First of all I'll have to thank you for sharing an image from your travel abroad, I always get a kick out of seeing photos of far off places. I like how you've printed this image, and on a paper I've never used much of. Ilford's Gloss offering always rubbed me up the wrong way, but it works for this image, especially in the tones of the floor from the light coming in through the door. Actually, that's my favorite part. Great range of tones, I love a good print with clean whites and solid blacks. The rough border of the print appeals to me, and I think suits the subject wonderfully. Fantastically done.

Mick Fagan - Looking up
I dont see enough high-key portraits like this, it really works. I like what you've done with the grain, and it's got a brilliant sculptural effect. A full range of tones and very clean. I've never seen much warm tone work, and it's very subtle in this print but it make it for me. Without some warmth it might drift too far towards a sculpture instead of a portait. I've seen a similar pose done before and somehow they'd made the nostrils the focal point by accident...not really the best look. I'm quite taken with the stamp in the top right too, a lovely touch.

Andrew K - Normanville Church (That's just what I'll call it)
Fantastic! I'm always interested to see the effects different processes have, and it works so damn well for this photograph. I also really appreciated the sheet you included detailing your process - we were nearly in the same tintype workshop, I think. Me and 2 of my friends were trying to make it to Gold Street earlier this year for one of the tintype workshops, but studies (and expenses) got away from us. Hopefully later in the year - One of my friends took their carbon workshop and came away with an amazing print. Also, we went to the same camera market, and Victor Harbour was my neck of the woods for the 6 years before I moved to the city. It is a small world, in the end.
Back to your print though - it's wonderful. I was always very fond of the frame lines grafmatic holders leave, and the 4x5" image sits nicely in the middle of the page. I know what you mean about the hand-made effect, and I really feel it adds.
The composition is very nice, and you've worked a great range of tones into it. I love the bark of the tree, it reminds me very much of the trees I used to play in as a kid. The scene is very familiar. There's quite a lot of depth to it.
Alright - I'm rabbiting on now - but bloody well done, and I really appreciate the effort you've put into this exchange.

Ashley - Old Farm Window
My dad grew up in the mallee around Waikerie, and we lived about half an hour outside of Kapunda for a few years when I was a young lad, so scenes like this strike a chord. Brilliantly printed, I love the detail of the spiderwebs especially. Great composition, and I think your split-grade printing has been quite successful. It's a very natural feeling scene with a great breadth of tones. The dirtied glass is particularly interesting. Well done mate.

Andrew Carson - Discovering Dandelions
A wonderful photo that you're sure to cherish for years to come. I remember dandelions from when I was quite young, and telling the time with them...I don;t think that really worked though, thinking now. I cant tell you the era of your camera, but I know that the older Voigtlander folders are quite well respected. I've shot some Shanghai GP3 in the past and had mixed results, but yours has come out just fine. Great shot.

Nige - Bark
Great use of print toning here, Viradon isn't something I've had any experience with, but the name comes up from time to time. A fantastic clean print, with great detail and tones. I've not done much traveling in Victoria but it's certainly on my to-do list. It's just a lovely photograph, well executed and a great example of the tactile feel a good fiber print can have with the right subject matter. I'm a bit curious about the paper you've used, as it's not something I've heard of?
It all just works.

Ian - Caledonian Road, 2003
This is just utterly gorgeous. Fantastically composed on the square format. It reminds me of a lot of the structures out in the Port Adelaide area here, especially the bricked up windows. You're right about the two chaps in the black coats in the foreground, they really seem to suit the part. I cant help wondering where they're walking off to. The print just seems so damn warm. Not just the tone, but it feels like the sun coming up, the light is perfect. Fantastically printed with a wonderful range of tones and not too much contrast. I never knew D3200 could look so smooth.

Barrie - Just a landscape image
I don't think I've ever held a photograph from a Hasselblad in my hands :D I'm very impressed with the warm tone, and how it has a similar quality to Nige's Bark photograph, but quite different. Spot on composition and an honest representation of a common country scene. It's got a wonderful sweeping quality, and it feels very quiet.

Tim - Ulun Dog Bratan
The first thing that strikes me about this photograph is the reflection of the temple in the water, and what seems like reeds and lily-pads in the shadows. The tower almost has a glow about it. You've balanced the contrast and focus nicely. I admit I barely even see the dog, my eye is drawn directly to the middle of the image, and then up and down, before I notice him. The tiles at his feet look fairly modern, and the more I look I see the gate to the temple, on the right. A friend of mine traveled in Bali in early 2009 and shot predominantly colour neg film - you've captured an entirely different mood to what I've seen before.

Stephen - Untitled self portrait (2002)
Ah, HIE! Another one of those things I never got to experience, sadly. This has been another of the prints that has garnered the most attention when other people have viewed "the bundle", the grain really catches your eye. It's got a great other-worldly feel to it. The ocean becomes a landscape - what I think is the ocean? It could be a desert...but I like it a lot. Wonderful execution of an image that seems quite deliberately conceived. It seems almost out of scale the more I look at it, your figure seems to dwarf the scene but I suppose that's just the landscape feeling more and more surreal.
I like it a lot.

I carried the envelope around with me at school for a few days while I was looking for a satchel to keep it in, and they all got a wonderful response from everyone I saw. People read the information sheets that have been included too, so thank you to everyone for putting in so much time to explain your execution.

I'm pretty geared up for Exchange round 2 :D
 

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I haven't got to see the prints yet but for those asking, I believe the paper I used isn't available anymore. Originally made in India I believe, but minimal web presence according to google. Found one reference to it but it didn't actually describe what the paper they were selling was. Been working my way through a 100sheet box on subjects that suit a creamy or toned base.

I've found (old) Viradon gives a more 'neutral' brown tone (the whites tone but don't go yellow like they tend to with a 2 bath sepia). I'm nearly at the bottom of my last bottle of this stuff, no idea if the newer (New viradon) behaves the same.
 

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Any thoughts on including the kiwis in the next exchange, perhaps? It could be fun, and we're all in the same boat, photography wise. I dare say New Zealand probably gets a rougher deal when it comes to the prices of materials.
 

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I don't have an issue with that, perhaps it could be called the ANZ print exchange, or NZA print exchange, whatever floats your boat. :smile:

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Any thoughts on including the kiwis in the next exchange, perhaps? It could be fun, and we're all in the same boat, photography wise. I dare say New Zealand probably gets a rougher deal when it comes to the prices of materials.


...And the availability of quality analogue services.

Maybe call it APUG Trans-Tasman Print Exchange.
 

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Wow, very quiet in this thread...
For me, a big part of the fun of these print exchanges is reading everyone's comments about all the images. You know, looking at the various prints afresh through the eyes of others, seeing things I may not have seen myself.
I hope we haven't already reached the end of the feedback posts?!

Ian
 

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I've decided not to respond to the prints. I can't say anything that hasn't been said.
They are all great and I've got a few up in my darkroom and office.
Bring on the next one.
 

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hey guys, do we want to get another round going, include NZ as well?
 

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I'll be in it. I think the last round went pretty well, with just one non-finisher. That's a lot better than the hit-rate we used to get on the postcard excchange.
 

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In signing up for the next exchange, I realised I haven't given any comprehensive thoughts on the last round! So much 'life' stuff has been going on, I've forgotten all about it. I think it'll be good to spread them all out again after having not looked at them for a while, I've been thinking of them on and off, and hopefully my subconscious has been pondering them and I'll see all sorts of things I didn't pick up last time. ...I'll get on to this...
 

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I'll definitely be in the next one:smile: Can't wait.

Do we want a new thread for the next exchange?
 
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Sorry I have not responded with comments either, life has been a bit hectic lately - I was finally made redundant two weeks ago after 4 months of waiting for news from management in the US. In anticipation of the expected news, we've been preapring to sell our house and move cities and as a result so I don't know if I'll be able to participate in the 2nd round, although I'd love to.
 

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Sorry I have not responded with comments either, life has been a bit hectic lately - I was finally made redundant two weeks ago after 4 months of waiting for news from management in the US. In anticipation of the expected news, we've been preapring to sell our house and move cities and as a result so I don't know if I'll be able to participate in the 2nd round, although I'd love to.

Sorry to hear this Glenn. I hope everything works out OK (and that you are able to participate in the exchange too). Brisbane cannot afford to lose any film photographers!

Ian
 
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