Polaroid for a teenager

StoneNYC · Dec 28, 2012

EASmithV said:
Another +1 for the instax system. Sharp, contrasty, beautiful film, the likes of which you won't find from impossible any time soon if ever, and cleaner and easier than pack film. The film is comparatively affordable too.

Then how come they won't make a check ing back for film cameras like a 120 RZ / Hasslwbla back? Isn't it almost 120 sized?

~Stone

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RattyMouse · Dec 29, 2012

Instax film, be it the mini size or wide is amazingly sharp film with very little grain for an ISO800 film. Highly, highly recommended over any Polaroid equivalent.

himself · Dec 29, 2012

the cheapest most reliable and I guess safest would definitely be the instax as most have said.

but if you'd rather get a Polaroid and go for the TIP, then you could get a polaroid 3000RF instead of an sx-70.
it's an all plastic body with rangefinder, rather than zone or fixed focus like the other plastic body polaroids.
it also uses integral film (100, not 600) so would work with TIP film.

you can usually get them for under $30.

if you'd like, I have one I can send over to you, just pm me.

StoneNYC · Dec 29, 2012

himself said:
the cheapest most reliable and I guess safest would definitely be the instax as most have said.

but if you'd rather get a Polaroid and go for the TIP, then you could get a polaroid 3000RF instead of an sx-70.
it's an all plastic body with rangefinder, rather than zone or fixed focus like the other plastic body polaroids.
it also uses integral film (100, not 600) so would work with TIP film.

you can usually get them for under $30.

if you'd like, I have one I can send over to you, just pm me.

I think you meant "600 NOT 100" but nice of you. Yay for APUG givers

~Stone

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himself · Dec 29, 2012

StoneNYC said:
I think you meant "600 NOT 100"

nope meant that it takes the sx-70 film which is asa 100 (no?), sorry if that wasn't clear

Matus Kalisky · Dec 29, 2012

OK, the decision was taken (at presence of mother of my niece!). It is going to be SX-70 (or some of its variations - I need to look more into that) + TIP films. The very central reason is that the TIP films allow for alterations during development and that is what attract my niece most (she really has a crash on photography since about 6 months). The uncle will support the young artist with a couple of boxes of TIP film and a usable camera.

So - now I am out looking for a working SX-70 (and needing to lear more about it - there are several clones as far as I know).

EDIT: I do not seem to find any reasonable compilation on different SX-70. I would appreciate your help on which models are worth having a look at.

I should probably add; as the camera will be pretty much a present from me, but for technical reason will only be delivered in March, I will have a little time to use it too

cepwin · Dec 29, 2012

Excellent choice....I'm sure she'll love it. The web site I mentioned has two available for $90us that were tested and verified operational. However, they're not the classic original SX-70 (we had one growing up) that I think is a better camera if you can find one in good working order. The ones they have are the one step type which don't give you as much control. Good luck!

himself · Dec 29, 2012

Dead Link Removed
except that that the SLR 680/690 are the same type as the sx-70 but use the 600 type film not the sx-70 types, well, that info is on there, but in a different section.

Matus Kalisky · Dec 29, 2012

himself said:
Dead Link Removed
except that that the SLR 680/690 are the same type as the sx-70 but use the 600 type film not the sx-70 types, well, that info is on there, but in a different section.

Thanks, now is the reading time!

StoneNYC · Dec 29, 2012

himself said:
nope meant that it takes the sx-70 film which is asa 100 (no?), sorry if that wasn't clear

I thought you were saying "type 100" which is pack film/peel apart. Thus the misunderstanding

All clear now

~Stone

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StoneNYC · Dec 29, 2012

himself said:
Dead Link Removed
except that that the SLR 680/690 are the same type as the sx-70 but use the 600 type film not the sx-70 types, well, that info is on there, but in a different section.

That's helpful! Apparently I have the sonar yay!

Also the flash bars don't really exist anymore, you can get the TIP flash which is NOT a one time flash bar but a permanent reusable one, thank goodness!! It's expensive but probably worth considering.

Also be warned, she's 6 months into photography and you are waiting 3-ish months to give her this camera? Remember how quickly you moved onto the next toy at her age? Perhaps a camera NOW and more film and flash for May (or whatever month you had planned on). Just a suggestion.

~Stone

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himself · Dec 29, 2012

Stone's suggestion is good about maybe camera now and film later, unless you hope she moves on and you get to keep the cam

Stone,

The cubes seem to crop up on ebay every now and again. I have one of the flash gun types in my attic, not sure of the model, but I can take a look if either of you are interested. without looking I can say it works with my sonar, so imagine it would work with most others too.

StoneNYC · Dec 29, 2012

himself said:
Stone's suggestion is good about maybe camera now and film later, unless you hope she moves on and you get to keep the cam

Stone,

The cubes seem to crop up on ebay every now and again. I have one of the flash gun types in my attic, not sure of the model, but I can take a look if either of you are interested. without looking I can say it works with my sonar, so imagine it would work with most others too.

Haha

The flashes can be had but not reliably and it's just easier to buy a flash once.

~Stone

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AgX · Dec 31, 2012

himself said:
Dead Link Removed
except that that the SLR 680/690 are the same type as the sx-70 but use the 600 type film not the sx-70 types, well, that info is on there, but in a different section.

Here is the SX-70 section of an alternative lay-out of that Land-List:

http://www.instantoptions.com/landlist/cameras/sx70/

I find it more clear than the original, though the types 680/690 are not registered under SX-70 (I never came across them anyway...)

Prof_Pixel · Dec 31, 2012

I realize that teenagers frequently go through 'retro' phases, but you really should ask yourself just how much money you should put into this 'phase'. Yes, TIP film is digitally manipulatable (digital=finger), but there are other ways of achieving similar manipulation (DPUG material). If you want to promote an interest in film photography, why not a film camera that's 'retro' like a Holga?

himself · Jan 2, 2013

AgX said:
http://www.instantoptions.com/landlist/cameras/sx70/

that's so much better, the land list can be a bear to search through

AgX · Jan 2, 2013

I guess it is best to start with that alternative

http://www.instantoptions.com/landlist/

and switch over to the original "Landlist" (there is a link to do so) when necessary.

Matus Kalisky · Jan 16, 2013

So - a nice (tested) SX-70 should arrive in a few days as well as 5 (do not tell my wife ) boxes of PX-70 Color Protection.

It's playtime. Once I have my fun the camera will be passed to my niece

StoneNYC · Jan 16, 2013

Matus Kalisky said:
So - a nice (tested) SX-70 should arrive in a few days as well as 5 (do not tell my wife ) boxes of PX-70 Color Protection.

It's playtime. Once I have my fun the camera will be passed to my niece

You might not give it up lol

~Stone

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Matus Kalisky · Jan 20, 2013

So the camera arrived - as seller said it is indeed in good working condition, but the rollers were really dirty on sides and so first two shots had undeveloped parts in the top part of the image. But after I cleaned them this problem is gone. Now I have to try to get a sharp image. I did one more today, but it seems that amount of light in the room was not enough, so it got motion blur.

The camera is quite compact when folded in spite of the fact that it has a HUGE fun factor attached

It is a pity though that the Impossible film (their latest PX-70 color protection) takes about 30 minutes to fully develop (and you do not see anything first 10 minutes). If I were to keep the camera I would check the BW film options.

I will post some results once I get something worthwhile.

StoneNYC · Jan 20, 2013

Also sometimes they are under developed so you have to put the dark/light adjustment to light, that helps sometimes.

Good luck! I've moved on to spectra haha

~Stone

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Matus Kalisky · Jan 27, 2013

S - after few bad images (handshake, dirty rollers) I managed to get something better looking:

I used tripod for both images as I realized that the film has ISO 125 and as the lens is slow (f/8 if I am not mistaken) it is more of an 'outdoor' camera. But the photos really do have charm. I have actually one more, but the model did not want to sign the release

EDIT: I do not have a scanner, so a P&S had to do what caused some reflections as the photos are glossy.

StoneNYC · Jan 27, 2013

Matus Kalisky said:
S - after few bad images (handshake, dirty rollers) I managed to get something better looking:

I used tripod for both images as I realized that the film has ISO 125 and as the lens is slow (f/8 if I am not mistaken) it is more of an 'outdoor' camera. But the photos really do have charm. I have actually one more, but the model did not want to sign the release

EDIT: I do not have a scanner, so a P&S had to do what caused some reflections as the photos are glossy.

Wow really great exposure!! I'm shocked that's the SX-70? I need to get mine fixed the one that works is the auto and it stinks.

These are great

~Stone

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