Photography AI as art

[Vaughn]

That's a good point, Vaughn. But shouldn't the rest of us hear from other viewers or ourselves whose souls were stirred before we call him an artist? Self-proclamations seem rather weak if not corroborated by outsiders. ...

You have no restrictions on calling anyone an artist, or not an artist. You are free to judge either way and form your opinion whenever you please, using whatever criteria you choose. And of course, others are free to judge the quality and worthiness of your opinion...and of mine, also.

I'm just a passenger on a Helsinki Bus, hoping not to die before I reach a destination. But then I would have.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

If everything anyone creates is art even if only a smidgen, or anyone can call themselves an artist including my three-year-old grandson, then it's no big deal to be an artist. I'm glad we settled this.

 

[koraks]

it's no big deal to be an artist

Of course it isn't.
Being taken seriously as one, and/or making a living as one - now that's a different matter altogether.

 

[Vaughn]

The viewer doesn’t matter. No artist needs to “hear from them”.

Some people here do not identify as artists, preferring to call themselves photographers instead. If I wield my awesome power as a viewer and call them artists are they now cursed to identify as one?

One of the many uses of art, and purposes of the artist, is communication. And for any art or artist, the importance can range from zero to being all about communication. Feedback from the viewer is equally important...nice when it is expressed with a cash sale, but sometimes a stand-up ovation does nicely.

Over several decades I have been part of various local galleries (art associations, cooperative galleries, and such) and spend a good amount of time behind the counter. Always interesting seeing how a large variety of people look at art...including kids. Husbands dragged in by wives (or the other way around), new college students, local artists coming in to see friends' work, people from inland escaping the heat or smoke, botox wonders from the southern part of the state looking for art at a quarter of the price of their local artists, and folks who moved away long ago and are showing their kids where their parents came of age.

I watch as (most) people will walk by my work with hardly a glance, and some who will stop and spend a good bit of time. To those who seem interested, I will mention that I made the B&W images they were looking at earlier and ask if they have any questions. The depth of such discussions vary widely.

If everything anyone creates is art even if only a smidgen, or anyone can call themselves an artist including my three-year-old grandson, then it's no big deal to be an artist. I'm glad we settled this.

Exactly, this has been my point...it is no big deal to be an artist, except to the artist of course. Hopefully your grandson will keep his artistic spark alive. It can show up as creativity over the next 90 or so years. I hope no one ever tells him he is not an artist. That is like saying he is not fully human.

 

[chuckroast]

It is probably better to phrase it as everything created has some Art in it. Which means some creations are almost completely Art, while others have just a smidgen of Art in them.

I prefer:

Anything created by a human intending to make art is to be considered art. This is independent of how good- or bad it is.

This distinguishes it from craft, skill, or expertise.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I've been thinking of what many were saying and think you are right. So I've decided to proclaim myself an artist. I feel better already.

 

[MattKing]

I prefer:

Anything created by a human intending to make art is to be considered art. This is independent of how good- or bad it is.

Sounds like an argument/discussion I have with a friend about the legal meaning of "intention" .
Art doesn't need an artistic purpose. It only needs purposive creativity.
It is entirely fine to realize the existence of inherent Art after the creative fact.
Of course, one can intend to create something completely imbued with Art - that is what Artists who hope to make a living at it do.

 

[MattKing]

I've been thinking of what many were saying and think you are right. So I've decided to proclaim myself an artist. I feel better already.

Thanks for the fish - oh, I think that has been done!

 

[warden]

I've been thinking of what many were saying and think you are right. So I've decided to proclaim myself an artist. I feel better already.

I'll do you one better.

I, warden, as a long time viewer of art in its many forms, and having seen Alan Edward Klein's many works, be they photos or slideshows, and finding them pleasurable and artistic, do hereby grant upon him the title artist, by the power vested in me as the viewer. Congratulations!

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I'll do you one better.

I, warden, as a long time viewer of art in its many forms, and having seen Alan Edward Klein's many works, be they photos or slideshows, and finding them pleasurable and artistic, do hereby grant upon him the title artist, by the power vested in me as the viewer. Congratulations!

Do I get a medal or something?

 

[chuckroast]

Do I get a medal or something?

No, you get to be poor ... mostly thanks to Leica & Hasselblad. DAMHIKT

 

[Ivo Stunga]

No, you get to be poor ...

That's the true honor