Photographic terminology and words you hate.

[Poisson Du Jour]

Well I'm none of those things, nor do I call myself an artist, I just tossing out a reason why the term maybe ought to be pretty broad. I entered a print in something billed as an art show (or actually "art ashram" see my post in the southeast region US forum here about it) along with other photos, paintings, sculptures, a performance piece etc.

Congratulations, Roger. You are now a Artist Practitioner-Licentiate.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If you are a photographer you enter photographs, if you're a painter you enter a painting, if you're a screen printer you enter a screen print.

Look, I'm not going to agree with you, and you're not going to agree with me. It's time to agree to disagree and move on, otherwise I'm just going to have to have the last word.

The difference between you and Roger is that you are right and Roger is wrong.

 

[Roger Cole]

The difference between you and Roger is that you are right and Roger is wrong.

Um, ok then. Glad we got that sorted out!

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Hum, ok then. One guy did a performance too (wonderfully - and he's a friend of mine) so he, well, performed a performance.

I hope it was a good performance. Was it a dance, maybe butoh, sketch, or perhaps a comedy act? Perhaps it was a song, pantomime, or a soliloquy?

 

[Roger Cole]

Congratulations, Roger. You are now a Artist Practitioner-Licentiate.

There we go. Something like a formal wannta-be, huh?

 

[redrockcoulee]

Yes, I do judge, and I'm not ashamed of it either. (People judge all the time, but just don't like to admit it).

And in my judgmental ways I think calling yourself an artist is pretentious. Why? To be an artist assumes a high degree of skill, that you are very good at what you do. To be the judge of your own skill and deem it very high and to therefore call yourself an artist is - pretentious (to present yourself to be more impressive than you maybe really are).

'Photographer', 'Painter', 'Sculptor', etc is simply more honest and to the point, and doesn't sound like anything other than exactly what one does to express.

So my wife should refer to herself as a printmaker, photographer, painter, sketcher who occassionaly does clay work? Or instead of saying a printmaker should she say woodblock, lino, serigraph, etching (and that too can be broken down) printmaker?

When I hear a person when asked what they do and they answer they are a photographer I think commercial or wedding photographer whereas artist more likely means they are shooting for themselves same as a painter does rather than on commissions or as paid jobs.

In the end words are for communicating and when we need to replace a word or two with a couple of sentences that may almost convey the same idea then communications is weakened not strenghtened.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

So my wife should refer to herself as a printmaker, photographer, painter, sketcher who occassionaly does clay work? Or instead of saying a printmaker should she say woodblock, lino, serigraph, etching (and that too can be broken down) printmaker?

When I hear a person when asked what they do and they answer they are a photographer I think commercial or wedding photographer whereas artist more likely means they are shooting for themselves same as a painter does rather than on commissions or as paid jobs.

In the end words are for communicating and when we need to replace a word or two with a couple of sentences that may almost convey the same idea then communications is weakened not strenghtened.

Different interpretations, which is what makes the world interesting.

I don't agree with you, because I look at a person's work to see what they do, not their title. Hopefully the title is representative, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with using the words you used above; print maker, painter, etc.

 

[jp498]

Art, strictly defined, is a man with no arms and no legs attached to a wall.

 

[KenS]

Only if that body that has been attached to the wall is male rather than being female... or the one the somewhat strange fellow at the local wine bar who is commonly referred to, and known to the locals, as "Shirley"

Ken

 

[rustysven]

The word that does it for me is "contemporary" , every thing has to have contemporary added to it to make it sound desirable.

 

[Roger Cole]

Not exclusively a photo term these days but one I hate is "vintage."

 

[fretlessdavis]

Not exclusively a photo term these days but one I hate is "vintage."

+1

ESPECIALLY when it's hot off the assembly line. It cannot POSSIBLY be vintage. Thankfully this hasn't seemed to creep too far into the photography world, yet.

I guess with selling gear, it really bugs me when people will list things in the following manner: "Vintage 1968 Nikon F" or "Vintage Nikon F made in 1968"

DUH. It's vintage. It was made in 1968. We can read.

 

[Vaughn]

Not exclusively a photo term these days but one I hate is "vintage."

Give me a couple more decades and I'll be a vintage artist...

 

[Tori Nelson]

Pop! It's becoming as overused, and misused, as "awesome".

 

[Sirius Glass]

The word that does it for me is "contemporary" , every thing has to have contemporary added to it to make it sound desirable.

Not exclusively a photo term these days but one I hate is "vintage."

"contemporary vintage photographs" [prepare to hurl!]

 

[fretlessdavis]

"contemporary vintage photographs" [prepare to hurl!]

Thank ranks up there with 'Instant Classic' in phrases that will make you hurl.

 

[lxdude]

Art, strictly defined, is a man with no arms and no legs attached to a wall.

I saw him being pulled by a speed boat and they called him Skip!

 

[Darkroom317]

If you are a photographer you enter photographs, if you're a painter you enter a painting, if you're a screen printer you enter a screen print.

Look, I'm not going to agree with you, and you're not going to agree with me. It's time to agree to disagree and move on, otherwise I'm just going to have to have the last word.

What if you do all of them or mix them together?

 

[benjiboy]

Art, strictly defined, is a man with no arms and no legs attached to a wall.

Yes,the art is how he rings doorbells

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

What if you do all of them or mix them together?

Use your imagination.

 

[Roger Cole]

"Mixed media aesthetic presentation creator."


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[lxdude]

Yes,the art is how he rings doorbells

Ah, but if he's in front of a door, he's Matt!

 

[MattKing]

Ah, but if he's in front of a door, he's Matt!

He is who???

 

[lxdude]

He is who???

I don't think you're the same guy, as I believe you still have your four appendages. As for similarity regarding the fifth appendage, I have no idea.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I'll start another rant in this high quality thread.

Just read over in the TMax 25 thread that someone thinks Pan-F+ is 'mushy'.

Another favorite word that makes me laugh out loud.