Peter Elgar shows you how to mix developer

[Mainecoonmaniac]

Enjoy!

 

[Carter john]

Great!

 

[Disconnekt]

I like watching his videos, very informative stuff.

 

[Peter Schrager]

if you can't mix up a developer from scratch take up bird watching.

 

[pentaxuser]

if you can't mix up a developer from scratch take up bird watching.

I fear a few newcomers to film photography who are wondering about such matters may feel somewhat dismayed by your sentiment which is a pity for them and for developing their interest in these matters which may well matter to the future of film. I'd regard this as a pity

pentaxuser

 

[Helge]

Pentaxpete is just an amazing guy.
Apparently a lot of local people think so too, as he is given freebies all the time.
So much good advice here and on YouTube.
Just a role model for keeping up the spirit in adversarial times.

 

[MattKing]

if you can't mix up a developer from scratch take up bird watching.

Don't you mean:
"If you are unsure what to expect when you mix up powdered or liquid photo chemicals, because you have never seen or done anything like this before, this is a great way to learn".?
Just trying to help.

 

[macfred]

Pentaxpete is just an amazing guy.
Apparently a lot of local people think so too, as he is given freebies all the time.
So much good advise here and on YouTube.
Just a role model for keeping up the spirit in adversarial times.

Amen !!

 

[Mainecoonmaniac]

I think Peter Elgar is part of the Greatest Generation. Folks of his generation lived by thrift, hard work and modesty.

 

[AgX]

Maybe he turns to stand-development and is going to sit at his organ meanwhile...

 

[Peter Schrager]

Don't you mean:
"If you are unsure what to expect when you mix up powdered or liquid photo chemicals, because you have never seen or done anything like this before, this is a great way to learn".?
Just trying to help.

No actually I did mean what I said. How about someone get a used copy of the darkroom cookbook and follow the instructions...heat water to 125 degrees and add the following just make sure the previous chemical is first dissolved
Then top off to 1 liter. This is not rocket science
Now let him show me how to make pyrocat mc
It's a little more tricky and a hot plate helps ..not going to stand there and watch a YouTube video while I'm cooking
Did anyone ever tell this guy they have a invention called a digital scale??
As far as helping out newcomers to photography I've been a part of this website for a very long time and have never been anything but positive if people want learn something...Fred Picker used to have a saying
And it went like this...try it and find out for yourself
That's the great thing about analog photography
Unfortunately today it's all instant gratification and answers. Believe me if you screw up making developer it will surely let you know...

 

[Sirius Glass]

When all else fails, just follow the instructions!

 

[pentaxuser]

Surely #11 and #12 are so unhelpful to newcomers who come in all shapes and sizes and occupy the whole spectrum of "very unsure to near self sufficiency"

Here's a suggestion. If you believe that new members do not need to be helped when that constitutes " mollycoddling " then fine, don't help and just ignore the thread but I do wonder what is the point of stating what you feel when it is already obvious from previous statements. I suspect that either the person ignores such comments and might to his detriment ignore your future information on other matters which is a form of "zero sum game" or just leaves us and learns elsewhere which loses Photrio a member

Does there come a point when a member really shouldn't need to ask for help as it is obvious what he should do or the information has already been provided? Yes there is and at that point there is no need to respond at all is there?

Same applies when a member makes a statement that is plainly nonsensical by almost all of our definitions of this word but we first need to find out where he has got the information and explain why it is likely to be wrong as we are trying to give the best information on the subject.

When it is plain that the member is convinced that his statement is correct and cannot be persuaded otherwise or is being deliberately argumentative for the sake of provoking an argument for its own sake then aren't we back to the "ignore is the best response" reasoning? No need to say anything. Starving someone of a response of any kind, if that is what is warranted, is very effective.

The British Trade Union Movement used to have a sanction called "sending someone to Coventry" whereby no one spoke to or otherwise engaged with the individual

I have seen it used and pretty devastating it was. Nobody lasted more than a few days in what was effectively solitary confinement

I always liked the late PE's statement when he had got to the point when he had answered all the questions and statements made to him and felt that there was no point in continuing the discussion. It was " Whatever works for you". He had drawn an "iron curtain" across his territory so to speak and effectively forbidden any further incursions

pentaxuser

 

[mshchem]

Twin pan balances are my favorite! Not scales, but a balance. I have a couple really nice Sartorius electronic top loaders, made in Germany, early 80's. I picked up cheap. I still prefer mechanical balances. The Ohaus Harvard Trip balance and a set of weights, probably the easiest to use. I have several balances. I can weigh from 0.1 mg to 20 kg.
Great video, I will need to watch in detail. Just when you are about to give up on the internet, there's a undiscovered gem like this!

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

No actually I did mean what I said. How about someone get a used copy of the darkroom cookbook and follow the instructions...heat water to 125 degrees and add the following just make sure the previous chemical is first dissolved
Then top off to 1 liter. This is not rocket science
Now let him show me how to make pyrocat mc
It's a little more tricky and a hot plate helps ..not going to stand there and watch a YouTube video while I'm cooking
Did anyone ever tell this guy they have a invention called a digital scale??
As far as helping out newcomers to photography I've been a part of this website for a very long time and have never been anything but positive if people want learn something...Fred Picker used to have a saying
And it went like this...try it and find out for yourself
That's the great thing about analog photography
Unfortunately today it's all instant gratification and answers. Believe me if you screw up making developer it will surely let you know...

Did anybody tell you that young people get info from the internet than they do from books?

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Surely #11 and #12 are so unhelpful to newcomers who come in all shapes and sizes and occupy the whole spectrum of "very unsure to near self sufficiency"

Here's a suggestion. If you believe that new members do not need to be helped when that constitutes " mollycoddling " then fine, don't help and just ignore the thread but I do wonder what is the point of stating what you feel when it is already obvious from previous statements. I suspect that either the person ignores such comments and might to his detriment ignore your future information on other matters which is a form of "zero sum game" or just leaves us and learns elsewhere which loses Photrio a member

Does there come a point when a member really shouldn't need to ask for help as it is obvious what he should do or the information has already been provided? Yes there is and at that point there is no need to respond at all is there?

Same applies when a member makes a statement that is plainly nonsensical by almost all of our definitions of this word but we first need to find out where he has got the information and explain why it is likely to be wrong as we are trying to give the best information on the subject.

When it is plain that the member is convinced that his statement is correct and cannot be persuaded otherwise or is being deliberately argumentative for the sake of provoking an argument for its own sake then aren't we back to the "ignore is the best response" reasoning? No need to say anything. Starving someone of a response of any kind, if that is what is warranted, is very effective.

The British Trade Union Movement used to have a sanction called "sending someone to Coventry" whereby no one spoke to or otherwise engaged with the individual

I have seen it used and pretty devastating it was. Nobody lasted more than a few days in what was effectively solitary confinement

I always liked the late PE's statement when he had got to the point when he had answered all the questions and statements made to him and felt that there was no point in continuing the discussion. It was " Whatever works for you". He had drawn an "iron curtain" across his territory so to speak and effectively forbidden any further incursions

pentaxuser

This is why going people don't join. What a shame.

 

[MattKing]

Unfortunately today it's all instant gratification and answers. Believe me if you screw up making developer it will surely let you know...

Did you never have anyone show you how to do something like this? In a class, or a group darkroom or, as in my case, had my father show me stuff like this?
And be there to answer questions too?
Peter does a pretty good job of the first part - without a lot of the associated garbage that one can sometimes see from other Youtube resources.

 

[mshchem]

I remember when I was a little kid, on weekends, I always wanted my Dad to take me to his lab at his work. This would have been in the early 60's. I vividly recall precipitating silver chloride from a dilute salt solution with silver nitrate solution. He filtered the silver chloride onto a filter paper, and we set it near a window. Watching it grow gray was pretty amazing.

It was a salt determination. But I will never forget the beautiful white fluff forming as he titrated with the silver nitrate. I've got his Ainsworth Chain-o-matic analytical twin pan balance in my finishing room. Ivory tipped tweezers for handling the weights. There's a small container of a standard rock phosphate powder that was supplied by the National Bureau of Standards.

What a great thing to have someone like Pete to show people the way.