You made me smile, that is true we will assume there is no shipping cost that for rather ever else was in our car let us meet the rqirement for free shipping, we already have cassets, tape and sisors, a d it bothers cases we eould be processing so we are just evaluating the per frame cost of the film stock bulk vs pre loaded.That depends on many variables. Are there shipping costs in either scenario?
Are you processing the film yourself? If so, you'll have to add in the cost of the chemistry. If not, how much will processing cost per roll - and is there an additional scanning cost?
If you aren't including processing costs in the question, then the equation gets simpler. If you are using a daylight bulk loader to load the 100' roll into cassettes, then you'll likely end up with ~18 rolls of 36 exp. plus one short roll of ~20 exp. So, we'll figure 668 frames in total.
$ cost / (number of rolls * frames per roll) = $ per frame
$7.90 / (1*36) = 22c per frame
$107 / (18*36 + 1*20) = 16c per frame
Note that the second price does not include the cost of the cassettes, tape, and daylight loader and/or dark bag.
You may also be able to squeeze closer to 20 36-exp rolls from the 100' roll if you roll the cassettes in total darkness.
Even better, if you're using a manual-advancing camera, you could load/unload the camera inside a darkbag and squeeze closer to 38 or 39 exposures out of each 36 exposure roll.
That leaves the best case scenario of:
$107/ (20*39) = 14c per frame.
I am just trying to see if there is still a financial benefit to it as there was years agoMy personal view is if you are concerned about the cost per frame of 35mm film, you are not taking enough pictures.
In 2003, via B&HI am just trying to see if there is still a financial benefit to it as there was years ago
Pk, for what its worth I like 14 netter that 24 or 36 and still have all my equipment and wanted to know ro if U was saving any cash ir just feeling good about roll controle.today, the cost of bulk loading is not a huge savings, in fact the cost of the equipment to do the bulk loading will eat any savings off your first couple of bulk rolls (assuming that you purchase a loader and reloadable cassettes, you could however do the entire process with nothing more than scissors, a roll of tape, and a bunch of old 35mm cassettes that you saved.) Nonetheless, bulk loading is still valuable and worth considering. I do it because I like shorter rolls, so it gives me the freedom to make ~15-20 shot rolls.
For the price you listed I don't feel it's worth the trouble. Do they give you discount by buying 20 rolls instead of 1?
The math is simple enough, but - unless I missed it - so far, no one has mentioned one key number. How many 36 exp rolls per 100 ft roll?
Each frame, plus the gap, takes up about 1.5" so we know 36 frames will require at least 54" or 4.5 ft of film. But what I don't know is how much extra should be allowed for the leader on one end, and the unexposed part that is wrapped around the cassette spool on the other end. Is 5 ft per roll enough? If so, then a 100 ft roll can make 20 rolls of 36 exp each. So $107 divided by 20 = $5.35 per roll, just for the film.
Thank you, onlybis shops broken it down like this before digital, there eould had been more people bulk loading.Each frame is 36mm, there is a gap between frames of about 2mm...35 * 38 = 1368mm or 53.86". That lleaves 6.14" for leader and tail, sO 5' estimate for 36 exp roll is very reasonable for estimation...factory leader is 4" to where the film is full width. I used to keep sacrificial rolls of 135 and 120, but I cannot find the 135 factory load right now, or I would measure it for you. A
Been looking st foamapan but what filter th use so its more like true and tmax? It seems to have more red then the higher end filmIf you’re willing to try something other than Ilford or Kodak bulk film, you can cut the cost in half. I’m bulk loading Ultrafine Finesse 400 and it compares favorably to HP5+. Foma/Arista Edu is slightly more expensive, but the 200 ISO film is really nice.
+1My personal view is if you are concerned about the cost per frame of 35mm film, you are not taking enough pictures.
couldn't agree more !There really isn’t much cost benefit but there is a huge learning benefit. You get to know one film well. You have a steady supply of this film. You start to think in terms of possible projects.
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