Pen EE lens on a Pen F?

[fabulousrice]

We don't want Samurai prices to rise. Better don't extol its virtues online.

What does the Z2 have that the Z doesn't?

 

[xkaes]

Nothing. The Z2 has a couple of buttons/features removed from the rear panel -- but it was also produced in colors, the Z was not.

 

[Bob L]

You've got at least a couple of paths open to you for more lenses. The first is getting a half-frame with a zoom lens or switchable lens. I'm thinking of the Yashica Samurais and the Fuji TW-3, but there are others.

Your other approach, it adapters for the Pen F. There were several -- some easier to find than others. My Minolta Rokkor-X 7.5mm circular fisheye creates great full-frame images on my Pen FT, for example. There are also Tamron adapall and T-mounts for the Pen which provided countless opportunities inexpensively.

That sounds neat, but finding a SR>Pen F adapter is extremely difficult. The best I could find is a modern EOS>Pen F adapter on eBay. If you know of where I could find one, I'm all ears.

I bought a Pen FT, condition unknown, on eBay with the pancake attached. The focus was a little loose, so I had John at Zuiko.com CLA it. Works great now. However, I still find myself using the 40mm 1.4 more. Better handling, for one, and so sharp. But I do find myself attaching the pancake to a FT body and staring at it. What a beautiful looking combo.

 

[xkaes]

Pen F/FT adapters show up frequently on EBAY, but they typically are not the one you want, and usually pretty pricey. The Exakta and T-mount adapters are usually the easiest to find and most reasonable in price -- and there are a ton of T-mount lenses out there at bargain-basement prices.

But no matter what you get, they will never be as small as the Olympus Pen 38mm f2.8 pancake.

I got a reasonable deal on my Minolta-to-Pen adapter and it means I can use the Pen without buying any new lenses.

 

[Bob L]

Pen F/FT adapters show up frequently on EBAY, but they typically are not the one you want, and usually pretty pricey. The Exakta and T-mount adapters are usually the easiest to find and most reasonable in price -- and there are a ton of T-mount lenses out there at bargain-basement prices.

But no matter what you get, they will never be as small as the Olympus Pen 38mm f2.8 pancake.

I got a reasonable deal on my Minolta-to-Pen adapter and it means I can use the Pen without buying any new lenses.

Yeah, I like the idea in theory, but it ruins the handling. But the EOS one is fine for experimentation, same idea as the Minolta fisheye you mentioned.

 

[xkaes]

Well, if you use full-frame 35mm lenses on a Pen F/FT/FV, you can't think of the full-frame size & weight of the lens for comparison purposes.

For example, if you want a 300mm effect on a Pen, you use a full-frame lens that has a much shorter focal length than 300mm -- and much closer in size to the equivalent Pen optic.

And, of course, this doesn't hold true for wide-angle lenses -- but the Pen's wide-angle selection consisted of two focal lengths.

 

[Huss]

Not sure why some here are talking about the always broken Minox or good luck focusing wide open Rollei 35 full frame 35mm cameras to a half frame Pen. Enjoy making diptychs or triptychs with those. Or even just getting 72 exp per roll.
I also find the Pen F series way superior to the fix lens Pens if you want ultimate image quality and versatility. Not only can you change the lenses, but you can focus them extremely accurately at any distance and at any aperture.
And man, that crisp shutter release on a Pen F is something to behold. so satisfying!

 

[fabulousrice]

That sounds neat, but finding a SR>Pen F adapter is extremely difficult. The best I could find is a modern EOS>Pen F adapter on eBay. If you know of where I could find one, I'm all ears.

I bought a Pen FT, condition unknown, on eBay with the pancake attached. The focus was a little loose, so I had John at Zuiko.com CLA it. Works great now. However, I still find myself using the 40mm 1.4 more. Better handling, for one, and so sharp. But I do find myself attaching the pancake to a FT body and staring at it. What a beautiful looking combo.

What's a "SR"? Also no one said anything about passively waiting for adapters to grow on trees, I've designed and built a LOT of adapters in my life and would love to make more for half-frame capable lenses!

 

[fabulousrice]

Pen F/FT adapters show up frequently on EBAY, but they typically are not the one you want, and usually pretty pricey. The Exakta and T-mount adapters are usually the easiest to find and most reasonable in price -- and there are a ton of T-mount lenses out there at bargain-basement prices.

But no matter what you get, they will never be as small as the Olympus Pen 38mm f2.8 pancake.

I got a reasonable deal on my Minolta-to-Pen adapter and it means I can use the Pen without buying any new lenses.

What about an adapter to put a lens from a Pentax Auto 110 on a Pen F? Anyone tried that?

 

[MattKing]

What about an adapter to put a lens from a Pentax Auto 110 on a Pen F? Anyone tried that?

It would be a bit inconvenient to use a lens without an adjustable aperture. And it probably wouldn't cover the frame.

 

[Bob L]

What's a "SR"? Also no one said anything about passively waiting for adapters to grow on trees, I've designed and built a LOT of adapters in my life and would love to make more for half-frame capable lenses!

SR = Minolta.

 

[xkaes]

It would be a bit inconvenient to use a lens without an adjustable aperture. And it probably wouldn't cover the frame.

It not only won't cover the frame, but you can't get the lens close enough to the film. The flange focal length is too short -- unless you remove the mirror.

 

[xkaes]

.... would love to make more for half-frame capable lenses!

Besides the nice but limited Pen lenses, what half-frame lenses are you referring to?

 

[fabulousrice]

Besides the nice but limited Pen lenses, what half-frame lenses are you referring to?

There are a few motion picture cameras out there...

 

[fabulousrice]

While you can't select a specific shutter speed or f-stop on the Samurai, on the Z (other models may differ), you can adjust the exposure +/- 2 EV in 1/2 stop increments. All of the models have focus lock, so you can basically over-ride auto-focusing, by focusing on anything at the distance you want and locking in the focus. You can also set the camera for single or continuous motor drive operation, you can print the date or time on the picture -- you can even take multiple exposures.

I could go on -- like it's an SLR with a zoom lens. You can't do much better than that for close-ups.

Sure, it's larger and heavier than some half-frame cameras, but it's smaller and lighter than some as well -- and it all fits in one hand very comfortably.

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So I took a chance and got a Samurai Z, following your advice.

Unfortunately, the one I got has a problem with the lens, it seems a lot of oxidization happened inside of it.

It doesn't seem like there is a way to take it apart and clean it, unfortunately?

The photos came back very foggy, compared to the ones I took with the Pen FT.

 

[r_a_feldman]

I’ve made my own Nikon F-to-Pen FT and OM1-to-Pen FT adapters. It’s not that difficult to do. You just need to know the film-to-flange distance of the lens and the Pen FT (28.95mm). There was a web site describing making a Nikon-to-Pen FT adapter, but I cannot find the link now.

The hardest part is finding a Pen FT male bayonet. I have used ones from old tele extenders and T-Mount adapters. Same for the female Nikon or OM1 adapters.

Given how much people want for adapters on eBay, it might be worthwhile to get the parts and pay a machinist to do the work.

 

[abruzzi]

Given how much people want for adapters on eBay, it might be worthwhile to get the parts and pay a machinist to do the work.

yikes--the only Nikon F to pen ft adapter on eBay is $85--a bit steep. Most other dumb adapters are in the $15-$20 range. Nonetheless, my local machinist charges $25 to cut a hole in a technika lens board, I doubt building an adapter is going to be less than the $85 of the eBay special, unless you have a very cheap machinist.