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blansky

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To answer earlier comments, there were 15M American troops involved in WWII and there were 5M British troops. Guns were sent to the UK due to the scarcity of weapons there and the belief that invasion was imminent: http://histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/cou/us/aod/arms/aod-ea.html

Therefore, the US played 2 key roles in WWII with respect to the UK and that is what I meant.

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And the Russians had 29 million.

And the US was divided between Europe and Japanese theatres.
 

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Yes, a genuine word so says the OED. Which by the way gives the correct pronounciation.

One word which you should always spell correctly is pronunciation !!

(don't edit your post to make me look stupid!).


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One word which you should always spell correctly is pronunciation !!
I think that word should always be pronounced correctly.

The spelling seems relatively irrelevant. :D

Pronunciation is important when pronouncing a pronoun.

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Use clear enunciation when engaging in denunciation of improper pronunciation.

Though what it has to do with nuns, I don't know.
 

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This is true nonsensification of a trivially important non-concept!

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On the subject of nonsensification, we received this at work from head office about the engagement of a new employee:

Xxxxx will be in charge of identification, formalisation and facilitation of the implementation of organisation change initiatives

In their defence, head office is in China.


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Great argument for bringing back the guillotine.

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""Xxxxx will be in charge of identification, formalisation and facilitation of the implementation of organisation..."

Verbal masturbation.
 

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That's the new regime's population control policy.

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And the Russians had 29 million.
Very poorly equipped.

Only the first one or two ranks had weapons.
The later ranks were expected to pick up weapons and ammunition from those who had fallen before them.

The Sovs did not win the Eastern Front. The weather won the Eastern Front.

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And the Russians had 29 million.

And the US was divided between Europe and Japanese theatres.

Although later in the war, Russia (more properly the Soviet Union) was involved in the far east, and the British were involved in Africa and Asia. Or had you forgotten the African campaign and the Burma campaign?

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"Verbal masturbation." Yep.

In an interview with Alan Greenspan in last week's issue of Businessweek, Greenspan talked about the meaning of "constructive ambiguity":

"As Fed chairman, every time I expressed a view, I added or subtracted 10 basis points from the credit market. That was not helpful. But I nonetheless had to testify before Congress. On questions that were too market-sensitive to answer, "no comment" was indeed an answer. And so you construct what we used to call Fed-speak. ...I would catch myself in the middle of a sentence. ...I would continue on resolving the sentence in some obscure way which made it incomprehensible. But nobody was quite sure I wasn't saying something profound when I wasn't. And that became the so-called Fed-speak of which I became an expert over the years. It's a self-protection mechanism ...you've got to be careful about the nuances of what you're going to say and what you don't say."


So he traded credibility for reduced volatility. To keep the markets from going up or down on what he said, he elected to say nothing, while pretending to be saying something. It reminds me of the saying, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." This passes for leadership.

Anyone remember the movie, "Being There"?
 
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And the remaining time? The gun was discharged by a Border Services guard when he or she put down a severely injured moose who had (I assume) stumbled into a border crossing.

Only in Canada, you say?

The moose obviously did not have the proper papers and therefore must have been an illegal alien.
 

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Although later in the war, Russia (more properly the Soviet Union) was involved in the far east, and the British were involved in Africa and Asia. Or had you forgotten the African campaign and the Burma campaign?

PE

The point was you insinuated the ugly American bullshit " if it wasn't for America you'd all be speaking German now".

The truth is that the allies won the war and it was not just America.
 

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The only thing that won the war in Europe was a massive deception (Operation Fortitude) conceived by General
Dwight Eisenhower that reinforced Hitler's belief that the Allied invasion would take place at Pas de Calais.

Hitler was so obsessed with Pas de Calais, and the idea that Normandy was a deception, that he kept ?nine?
Panzer divisions at the ready in the Pas de Calais area for several days before releasing them to Normandy.

That delay is the only reason the invasion was successful.

- Leigh

Refs:
Univ of Texas: http://www.cah.utexas.edu/museums/military_artpub.php?articles=militaryarticles_hatfield_fortitude
UK National Archives: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/dday/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude
and numerous other references to Operation Fortitude and Normandy Invasion deception via Google
 

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Except for the Rat Patrol (as seen on TV), I guess us Yanks were not considered too serious of a threat in North Africa.

Sometimes it seems just a matter of whose newsreels you watched...

Operation Fortitude -- that was the Patton Ruse, was it not? Must have been thought up in Baton Rouge...
 

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Sometimes it seems just a matter of whose newsreels you watched...
Of course. All newsreels (and radio programs) were propaganda, from all countries.

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The only thing that won the war in Europe was a massive deception (Operation Fortitude) conceived by General
Dwight Eisenhower that reinforced Hitler's belief that the Allied invasion would take place at Pas de Calais.

Hitler was so obsessed with Pas de Calais, and the idea that Normandy was a deception, that he kept ?nine?
Panzer divisions at the ready in the Pas de Calais area for several days before releasing them to Normandy.

That delay is the only reason the invasion was successful.

- Leigh

Refs:
Univ of Texas: http://www.cah.utexas.edu/museums/military_artpub.php?articles=militaryarticles_hatfield_fortitude
UK National Archives: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/dday/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude
and numerous other references to Operation Fortitude and Normandy Invasion deception via Google

Actually some of the reason may be as simple as the birth of Lucia Marie Mollin who was born on May 6, 1894.

She was Rommel's wife, and since he missed her birthday and the weather was bad, he traveled back home to celebrate with her and on June 6 the invasion started, with him absent from his headquarters.

But the war was won by many things that happened, obviously D Day was vitally important but so was the holding of Stalingrad and the counter offensive that followed. That battle as well as D-Day sealed Germany's fate. Germany could not win a two front war and Russia had a major hard-on for revenge.
 

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And you have the right to arm bears.


Steve.

And the bears are always armed to the teeth!


And our women are allowed to bare their legs. In some countries that is not allowed! :blink:
 

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The point was you insinuated the ugly American bullshit " if it wasn't for America you'd all be speaking German now".

The truth is that the allies won the war and it was not just America.

Ummm, I never said that. I implied that since the US joined the results were probably different than if we did not. We will never know unless we con contact another parallel universe. However, since it took an additional 15M of US troops to conclude it in about 5 years, then it would have lasted a lot longer had we not joined it and that is for sure. It would also have cost quite a few more British lives.

Having been a team member at EK and in the AF, I learned that no effort is won by just one person! So, I never said that the US won the war.

PE
 

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And no symphony has ever been composed by a committee.

Success is a team thing. Excellence is an individual thing.

- Leigh

And this has what to do with the World War II discussion other than you felt a compulsive need to raise your post count?
 
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