Pan-F and Pyrocat

Thomas Bertilsson · Aug 31, 2007

I cannot seem to find reliable information about this combination online, so I decided to start making my own tests with this film.

First roll indicates that a good starting point for normal development with this film is:
EI 50, incident metering.
Pyrocat-MC at 70*F, 1+1+150, agitate first minute, than every three minuts at 9, 6, and 3 minutes. Developed in Paterson plastic tank.

I'll shoot a couple more rolls tomorrow and will report back here what I find.

Please don't ask me for any densitometry readings or other technical measurements since I don't have the means for it. I will test print these next weekend too.

If anybody else has experience with this combination, please post it here for comparison.

- Thomas

Leon · Aug 31, 2007

Hi thomas - just to add to the mix, I've had good results with this film in pyrocat HD at 1:1:100 1 min agitation then 4 inversions each 3 mins for 9 mins.

Matus Kalisky · Aug 31, 2007

Hello Thomas,

I might be trying Pan F in Pyrocat HD within nexe few weeks so your experience on this would be very helpfull. Though as far as I have found on this forum - people tend to shoot Pan F at about EI 20 - 32.

I found following developement procedure for Pan F in pYrocat HD here (I did NOT test myself) - if you are interested:

EI 20, presoak 2 min, developer 1:1:100, 21 deg Celsius, develope for 67 minutes agitate every minute for 5 seconds. stop with water and fix in TF-4 for 5 minutes.

I am looking forward to see your results. Good luck.

- Leon -

what was your EI for the film?

Leon · Aug 31, 2007

slnce-z-gsi said:
- Leon -

what was your EI for the film?

50.

EI 20, presoak 2 min, developer 1:1:100, 21 deg Celsius, develope for 67 minutes agitate every minute for 5 seconds. stop with water and fix in TF-4 for 5 minutes.

are you sure the source said 67 minutes with 5 second inversion each minute? I can see this working if you gave a stand development with say 1 or 2 inversions at the halfway point - but developing film in pc hd for 67 minutes using normal agitation sounds far too long to me

Matus Kalisky · Aug 31, 2007

Leon said:
50.
.. are you sure the source said 67 minutes ..

no, NO, that's a typo. I meant 6 minutes sorry ..

Leon · Aug 31, 2007

slnce-z-gsi said:
no, NO, that's a typo. I meant 6 minutes sorry ..

thought as much lol

noseoil · Aug 31, 2007

Thomas, I've never used Pan-f and pyrocat, but I would think that you will be somewhere between 15 and 22 minutes, with minimal agitation. Best guess with this film (based on other films) would be about 18 minutes for this type of agitation, dilution and 70f temp.

Interested in hearing how you like the combination of Pan-f and minimal agitation for tonality, sharpness and overall look. Hope your tests go well. This would be a nice film for portraits. Are you shooting in outdoor light, basic daylight scenes? Best, tim

Ytlas · Aug 31, 2007

With Pyrocat MC and Pan F 50, I shoot at box speed and develop 1:1:200 for 21 minutes (semi-stand) @ 70 degrees. I agitate for the first 30 seconds and then another 15 seconds at the half-way point. I use the 100% potassium carbonate "B" solution.

Tom Hoskinson · Sep 1, 2007

I use Pan F developed in Pyrocat-MC 1+1+100 for 18 minutes at 21C with semi-stand agitation.

Thomas Bertilsson · Sep 1, 2007

I did another roll, shot at box speed, developed at 70*F, in Pyrocat-MC, 1+1+100, for 13 minutes with constant agitation first minute, then once every 3 minutes. I got good range and nice highlight separation.

Tom H - what's your agitation method for semi-stand? Do you agitate initially and then half-way through?

- Thomas

Tom Hoskinson · Sep 1, 2007

Semi-Stand Agitation with Pyrocat-MC

Thomas Bertilsson said:
I did another roll, shot at box speed, developed at 70*F, in Pyrocat-MC, 1+1+100, for 13 minutes with constant agitation first minute, then once every 3 minutes. I got good range and nice highlight separation.

Tom H - what's your agitation method for semi-stand? Do you agitate initially and then half-way through?

- Thomas

Yes, I start with a 2 minute tempered water presoak, 30 seconds of gentle initial agitation in the developer and then 30 seconds more gentle agitation, at the half-way point.

Pan-F and Pyrocat

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