"Packard shutter box"

[Jim Fitzgerald]

I should have some pictures to show of my Walnut 8x20 camera soon. The bellows are under construction. In the mean time I decided to build a Walnut Packard shutter box for the 8x20. Basically I built a lens board frame from the camera, built a box around it and mounted the Packard inside using some 1 1/2" brass bolts and nuts. I made a backing to cover the thing up, cut a hole in it, made a ring to give me some space between the back and the lens board that is attached. I attached some pictures. Let me know what you think.


Jim

 

[noseoil]

Jim, looks like it should be good to go. What lens are you going to use for a "normal" F/L on the beast? Ria just found a 12 x 20 which she's brought over for inspection. She's looking at lenses as well. tim

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Tim, I have the following lenses mounted on boards and ready to go. A Rodenstock APO Gerogon 14" F-9, an Ilex 15" F-9 process lens with a beautiful blue coating and a Kodak 21 1/4" Anastigmat F-11 so far. I know I have the 14 and 15 inch lenses that are so close that I may use one of them on the 8x10. I think on of these will be my standard lens for this format. At some point I may try to find a 30" Artar or something along those lines to complete the package. I am looking forward to using this beast real soon. I'll be sure to post some pictures of it when I get it done.

Jim

 

[noseoil]

Another Packard

Jim, here are a couple of pictures of a similar setup for my 8x10 B&J. Also addes as a bonus, the lens shade I made to cut some of the light from the Nikkor 480mm lens. Best, tim

 

[MenacingTourist]

I posted pics of my Packard box design last year in this thread: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

I've since altered it to fit into a Kodak 8x10 2D. I also made several more front boards to my design so each lens has it's own board. One Packard shutter and 6 old barrel lenses...That should keep me busy for a while.

Alan.

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

When I get my shutter mounted (later tonight), I'll post pics of my Packard front-mounting rig. It's a pretty clever design, that lets it interchange in front of multiple lenses.

 

[noseoil]

4x5 to 810 board

Forgot to add this one. Uses the normal Toyo lens board from a 4x5 and fits it into the 8x10. tim

 

[Dan Dozer]

Alan,

I made one very similar to yours and it works very well on the 8 x 10. However, when I put it on the 8 x 20, some lenses have problems. The 19" red dot artar, which doesn't project out the back of the lens board at all, is located too far out in front of the packard (about 3/4") and the front end of the bellows begins to cut off the wide sides of the image about an inch on each side. I'm in the process of mounting a packard directly to the back of the 19" lens board to fix this problem. My other lenses that do project out the back of the lens board are close enough to the packard shutter so there is no problem.

Jim - you might want to be aware of this when it comes to your 8 x 20.

Dan

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Alan,

I made one very similar to yours and it works very well on the 8 x 10. However, when I put it on the 8 x 20, some lenses have problems. The 19" red dot artar, which doesn't project out the back of the lens board at all, is located too far out in front of the packard (about 3/4") and the front end of the bellows begins to cut off the wide sides of the image about an inch on each side. I'm in the process of mounting a packard directly to the back of the 19" lens board to fix this problem. My other lenses that do project out the back of the lens board are close enough to the packard shutter so there is no problem.

Jim - you might want to be aware of this when it comes to your 8 x 20.

Dan

Dan, thanks for the heads up. I was concerned about this. I may have some problems with some of the lenses that do not project out the back as far. Thanks to everyone for sharing their ideas. Packards are very useful with all of the great old Brass lenses out there.

Jim

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Jim, here are a couple of pictures of a similar setup for my 8x10 B&J. Also addes as a bonus, the lens shade I made to cut some of the light from the Nikkor 480mm lens. Best, tim

Tim, this looks nice. The reason I decided to use my design was so I could use all of my lenses on the same Packard. It has worked for my 8x10 and I hope it will work for this format also. One Packard and three lenses is my goal. Thanks.

Jim

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

My front mount assembly

I've got a rig that allows me to interchange the front-mount Packard between multiple lenses, I just need to cut an appropriate size front flange to slide into the slot on the back of the Packard shutter mount. This shows it mounted on the 11x14 Bausch & Lomb f4.5 Tessar on the Gundlach Wizard 11x14.

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Scott, this looks like a very easy way to use the Packard. I like the fact that you can use it on different lenses. It eliminates the need to build a box. The ideas that everyone has for using their Packards are great. Thanks for the pictures. This give me some more ideas.

Jim

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

The front-mount method works well for cameras where you need a larger size shutter than the front standard will fit inside the bellows. I've got three or four lenses now that need a 4" or larger diameter opening in the shutter. That means an 8" sq. or more Packard shutter. Only one studio camera of mine will take that big a shutter. Mounting this way lets me use those monster lenses on cameras with smaller lensboards.

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

This is great information for me to know, thanks. I am building an 11x14 so this will come in handy for the Packard I will need for it.

Jim