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Hi Pacific North-westerners
How did the gathering in Newport, Oregon go? I couldn't make the trip and did not see any posts about the event and how it went.
Michael
 
It was absolutely great fun! We've already got next year's event scheduled in Vancouver, WA, the second weekend in September.

One reason you haven't seen any posts about the events is that they have ended up a little buried in the Social Groups section ((there was a url link here which no longer exists)). We're trying to change that. If there were a dedicated PNW Region forum it would be easier to follow what was going on. Many of us would like to see more gatherings, formal and informal. The photographers I met in August are an extraordinary group and an annual meeting just isn't enough for me.:smile:

Denise
 
It was absolutely great fun! We've already got next year's event scheduled in Vancouver, WA, the second weekend in September.

One reason you haven't seen any posts about the events is that they have ended up a little buried in the Social Groups section ((there was a url link here which no longer exists)). We're trying to change that. If there were a dedicated PNW Region forum it would be easier to follow what was going on. Many of us would like to see more gatherings, formal and informal. The photographers I met in August are an extraordinary group and an annual meeting just isn't enough for me.:smile:

Denise

Thanks Denise
I agree that once a year is not enough. Vancouver is more doable and will put it on the calender.
Michael
 
What's the reason for Vancouver, I assume it's US, is there a great place to meet or is it just logistical? The Coast Starlight does go through there and stops in Portland.
 
Yes, good old Vancouver, USA, as Washingtonians like to call it. Or, as we Portlanders say, The Couv...
 
Washington State University, Vancouver has kindly offered their space for the gathering there. They have a wonderful darkroom and are very supportive of alternative processes. Portland Photographers Forum has a great relation with the school, the faculty and students. PPF does many of its workshops there.
Currently, I'm working on speakers for next year and we have tentatively Christopher Burkett Ilforchromes, Russ Dodd who will share Photogravures and Terry Halstead, who does Bromoils. Last September, I had the pleasure of sitting with John Wimberley and Chris Burkett as they discussed the metaphysical and spiritual aspects of creative photography. I'm now in the process of seeing if the two of them would be willing to do it again with an audience. I'll keep everyone posted.
 
I've got to put it on my calendar, this year I "had" to go to Moab, it was a hard choice since I love Newport.
 
Yep, it'll be in Vantucky, as some Portlanders refer to it as... :smile:

-J
 
OK, I have the answer regarding a Oregon regional forum! Please, head over to the Groups listing and look up U.S. Pacific Northwest Regional. There you will see what Sean has shared with me and what will be happening in the near future.

Thanks
 
i see that dennis purdy has begun to post the first images from the apug gathering in newport (at least the first that i've seen) -- a couple of very pretty sand details in the subscriber gallery .... if anyone else who was there has anything from the docks, or the beach, or the town, we'd love to see them in the gallery ..... since i cleverly managed to fog all three of the 8x10 negs i made (probably by waiting too long for the wind to die after i pulled the dark slide), i probably won't have anything to add.... i'll find out next week when i try to salvage one of them .....
rich
 
I have the negatives developed, but none printed yet... a couple of promising ones. Might be a couple more weeks...I have bigger fish to fry.

Vaughn
 
I have the negatives developed, but none printed yet... a couple of promising ones. Might be a couple more weeks...I have bigger fish to fry.

Humboldt Squid?
 

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No, but I did have some good beer-battered fish and chips tonight!:tongue:

I have a carbon printing demo to prepare for by Wednesday and by Nov 1st I have to: develop and print for the World Toy Camera Day exchange, print a few portraits in exchange for some wood-work I had done, get a show up on the walls of my eye doctor, a print & frame a couple more pieces to print for another show. But no squid, von Humboldt or otherwise!:smile:

Vaughn
 
Vaughn, just how hard and expensive is Carbon printing? I see that Jim is making Carbon prints and some others too.

Curt
 
Vaughn, just how hard and expensive is Carbon printing? I see that Jim is making Carbon prints and some others too.Curt

Carbon printing is cheap in material, expensive in time. But then the time aspect is relative. For those who are use to walking into their darkroom, pouring out some chemicals in trays, start silver printing, and coming out a few hours later with a finished print (or something close to finished), carbon printing will seem quite laborious. To those making wet plates, tri-color gum prints, or the like, the carbon printing process will seem to be a relatively quick process.

Compared to platinum printing, carbon printing is very cheap and perhaps twice as time consumptive...though perhaps the learning curve for carbon printing is a bit steeper...just because there are more variables to control.

Cost...to make eight 8x10 prints:
12 packets of Knox Unflavored gelatin -- about $3
60 grams sugar -- a few pennies
5 grams lampblack watercolor paint in a tube (can be cheap type) -- a couple bucks or so
4 or 5 grams of Ammonium dichromate -- a couple bucks maybe?
Photopaper people give you because it is too old -- free

So perhaps a total of a buck a print. Buying gelatin in bulk will probably reduce the cost, and some printers use less expensive pigments (colorants for house paints, Sumi and other inks, etc.) One fellow makes his own carbon pigment from the coal of the coal mining area he is photographing.

Time --
An hour or two in the morning to make the pigmented gelatin (then let it sit in a warm water bath for the rest of the day) and 4 to 6 hours that evening to pour the tissue. (let dry for a couple days).
About 12 hours of printing to make the 8 prints, once one has a system down.

The time for printing can be reduced with a bright light source (a 1000W plate-maker, for example). I just got one, but have not used it yet...otherwise my exposures are one to two hours long. Finding the most efficient way to work with the equipment and space one has, will cut time off.

So for little money, and not too much time (once one gets use to the idea that one isn't buying everything pre-made), one gets incredible print quality and maximum stability/lifespan.

Vaughn

PS...Curt, if you are interested I will email you a PDF of my carbon printing "manual" -- but even better, or at least easier, here is a link to a "How to" article by Sandy King. We work differently -- yet seem to be able to get the same results.

http://unblinkingeye.com//Articles/Carbon/carbon.html

And other PS...I forgot to mention...one can buy the carbon tissue already made from Bostick and Sullivan. A way to quick-start the process.
 
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PS...I can't post in the new regional PNW/State of Jefferson Forum. I am denied access or something like that

Vaughn
 
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