Orwo introduces a new film WOLFEN NP100

[AgX]

In this context with steel canisters are meant steel cassettes.

 

[fdonadio]

Filmotec has got own conversion machinery. From the start.

What they did not have so far is the ability for spooling type 135. As this is a product for a market they did not serve in the past.

From what I’ve heard from several members here, this kind of machinery costs really good money… hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I find it curious that a company invests serious money on machinery, only to produce some 36,000 rolls of film.

Judging by the information I have, the revenue of the film sales won’t even pay for the machine alone!

 

[MattKing]

From what I’ve heard from several members here, this kind of machinery costs really good money… hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I find it curious that a company invests serious money on machinery, only to produce some 36,000 rolls of film.

Judging by the information I have, the revenue of the film sales won’t even pay for the machine alone!

They may very well be selling production with that machinery to others.
So much of the industry is contracting out.

 

[Wallendo]

If they have a new finishing line, it may make economic sense to do a single test run (36,000 rolls) to make sure everything works well before going into full-time production of this or a future color film.

 

[fdonadio]

If they have a new finishing line, it may make economic sense to do a single test run (36,000 rolls) to make sure everything works well before going into full-time production of this or a future color film.

Test runs can go wrong. I can’t imagine they would risk having to cancel orders or sell bad film.

They must have already tested the new finishing line with other materials.

 

[fdonadio]

They may very well be selling production with that machinery to others.
So much of the industry is contracting out.

That makes sense. Like I said, Ferrania was struggling to get an old finishing line back in operation, after relying on a 3rd party to finish their films… and having problems with that.

So, new “finishers” are more than welcome in this market.

 

[removedacct3]

They must have already tested the new finishing line with other materials.

Perhaps related, but I've noticed that Bergger Pancro 400 is back in stock again at a retailer that was out of stock a few weeks ago

BERGGER - Pancro 400 - 35 mm

labo-argentique.com

 

[flavio81]

They may very well be selling production with that machinery to others.
So much of the industry is contracting out.

Exactly, conversion must be a good business right now (see: fuji using Kodak for conversion of Fuji C200)

 

[gone]

I wonder what the deal is with the limited edition of 36000 rolls.

This is solely from my past experiences, but a film production that is purposefully limited to a certain amount of films is usually done in order to make it a 'boutique' film. Look for the price to be inline w/ that designation

Who knows? Maybe that's all the materials they have at hand. I wouldn't want to buy any until I knew why the production was being limited.

 

[cmacd123]

Exactly, conversion must be a good business right now (see: fuji using Kodak for conversion of Fuji C200)

or is that Fuji Buying Fuji C200 lock stock and barrel from Kodak?

 

[Arcadia4]

Foma or ilford assuming its also boxed would seem the most likely suspects for conversion into metal casettes for the scale of run. It should be fairly obvious from the packaging details (canister/boxes) when they go on sale who has done it. I believe Ilford already convert the bergger films that inoviscoat produce so the logistics are already tested.

 

[Arcadia4]

or is that Fuji Buying Fuji C200 lock stock and barrel from Kodak?

Yes. Evidence points to fuji 200 for the US market (not ‘C’200) being gold 200 coated and packaged by kodak under contract from fujifilm. Also saves shipping it all the way to the US given the ongoing shipping problems. Plus we get more of whats left of the real stuff to shoot in Europe

 

[Raghu Kuvempunagar]

The new Orwo site has both Orwo NP100 and Orwo UN54 listed for pre-order. This confirms that the two films are not the same.

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[faberryman]

Orwo NP100 is 9.50 euros or roughly $10.00/roll. By comparison, at B&H, FP4+ is $8.26/roll, Delta 100 is $11.23/roll, TMX is $9.99/roll, and Foma 100 is $6.29/roll. Tax on the NP100 is included. You have to add your state sales tax to the film prices at B&H.

Seems like the NP100 might be worth checking out.

 

[cmacd123]

also looking at the Motion Picture side, it seems that N75 is NOT listed, But their is yet another 400 Speed B&W Movie stock. "ORWO P400 V3" No data on any of the listed items. Not clear if UN54 is still going to be arround, as it is "soon" in one place.

 

[Fortepun]

And...we have the options with pricing, all ORWO does in the black and white film segment cut to canisters from now on:

 

[fdonadio]

They must have already tested the new finishing line with other materials.

Perhaps related, but I've noticed that Bergger Pancro 400 is back in stock again at a retailer that was out of stock a few weeks ago

By “other materials”, I mean test materials: bad coating runs, expired film, test coatings (with non-photo-sensitive materials), etc.

Nobody in their right mind would test new equipment with known good materials, only to lose everything if it fails.

 

[removedacct3]

By “other materials”, I mean test materials: bad coating runs, expired film, test coatings (with non-photo-sensitive materials), etc.

Nobody in their right mind would test new equipment with known good materials, only to lose everything if it fails.

Of course. I was merely pointing out that they finished testing some time ago and that they already finished a production run of Bergger Pancro 400 after testing the coating line. Pure speculation of course, but an option nevertheless.

 

[Ernst-Jan]

also looking at the Motion Picture side, it seems that N75 is NOT listed, But their is yet another 400 Speed B&W Movie stock. "ORWO P400 V3" No data on any of the listed items. Not clear if UN54 is still going to be arround, as it is "soon" in one place.

I have a roll of P400 in my fridge, bought it from a guy called c0re on eBay. Can't find any data about it on the Filmotech website. But in this kit of multiple different films was also N75, so I guess it's something different.

 

[Bluechapel]

Any idea what developer?

 

[cmacd123]

Nobody in their right mind would test new equipment with known good materials, only to lose everything if it fails.

If you don't test it with Perfect materials, how can you know if everything is working right? the price of film always incudes the cost of the stock that was fed through the machine in the light, the stock that was opened in the light as soon as it came off the machine, the blank film that was sent to processing right away. that is called Quality control.

 

[cmacd123]

Just for fun I went looking for P400.

the first thing I found was the Filmotec.de site has been redone and is now only in german. BUT I did find a german datesheet for P-400. it is a Survelance film intened for Bank cameras. I wounder if that is Just old stock they are trying to sell off. Much like all the AVIPHOT that was on the market a couple of years ago?

one other page from A German business site gave filmotec as having 20 employees.

 

[Raghu Kuvempunagar]

@AgX: Was there a Orwo NP100 film in the late 70's and early 80's? There are a whole lot of pics on lomography website under Orwo NP100 heading:

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[AgX]

Orwo designated their NP range in DIN, not in ASA.



So, there was a NP 22.

 

[flavio81]

And...we have the options with pricing, all ORWO does in the black and white film segment cut to canisters from now on:

Pricing of the 400 film is good...