Ortho film Choices

[Sportera]

Ive been using a fair amount of ADOX 25 ORT, but wondering if there are better alternatives for an Ortho film in 4x5. I see that Ilford makes a Ortho Plus 4x5 film, anyone try it?

 

[keithwms]

O+ is very good stuff but pricey.

 

[epatsellis]

If it's the ortho performance you want, and speed is secondary, the obvious (to me, at least) choice is lith films with either POTA, Soemarko LC-1 or Jim Galli's Rodinal based formula.

Freestyle sells APHS 3 7/8 x 4 7/8 or something around those lines for 4x5 in camera use. if you prefer .007 thickness films, ultrafineonline has a lith film that is pretty good as well, and handles like a dream.

 

[Ian Grant]

The Ilford Ortho Plus film is superb, I used to use the previous versions in quite large quantities for work and it's a very flexible, versatile film. It's vastly superior to using a Graphic arts film.

It's worth looking at the data-sheet for the Ortho Plus, in many respects it gives fine grain, sharpness & overall quality similar to FP4+ but of course with quite a different spectral response. Development is very flexible and it gives very clean negatives for copy work, which was my main use.

Ian

 

[jd callow]

Ian,
How do you rate it and is it still available?

 

[Ian Grant]

Yes it's available still, I rated it at 80 ISO and processed it in PQ Universal, but we wanted higher than normal contrast. You'd need to do a quick speed test for pictorial use but essentially it's almost interchangeable with FP4 half a stop slower and fine in ID-11/D76 etc.

Ian

 

[jd callow]

cool. I have a redheaded niece and nephew who need to be shot on ortho bad.

 

[Jerevan]

Yeah, second the use of Ilford Ortho+, wonderful film! I have an example in my gallery, altough it may not be representative.

 

[Philippe Grunchec]

How does it behave in Pyrocat HD?

 

[Ian Grant]

It will be very similar to FP4 in Pyrocat, although I've not tried it. Over the years I used it in a variety of developers and it's a typical Ilford emulsion, while it's not an Ortho version of FP4 it's typical of the Ilford conventional films, like FP4 & HP5 in the way it behaves in developers. It's a really nice film to use.

Ian

 

[Bounty]

Hi, can you get it in 120 size Karl

 

[Ian Grant]

No it's a sheet film only. It's main use is as a copy film.

Ian

 

[2F/2F]

It's not that pricey compared to their panchromatic films: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...sp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=submit

 

[Sportera]

So I guess a box of Ilford Ortho+ is in my future, thanks for the input.

 

[mrbryanmarshall]

i have use Ilford Ortho plus - extremely good grain, easy to expose with slight latitude. Developing in Ilford Perceptol 1+0 give really good results. It is my fave although thinking of changing to your ADOX due to the cost!

 

[dancqu]

Has any body suggested a cyan filter with a pan film? Dan

 

[hawkwind]

I bought a box of 8x10 Ilford Ortho Plus thinking that it could be used like Adox ORT 25 in a camera. All of Ilford's literature, however, states its use as a copy film. I tried J&C's Ortho Copy film in my camera with dreadful results. Does Ilford's work well in the camera?

Thanks!
--Gary

 

[2F/2F]

Has any body suggested a cyan filter with a pan film? Dan

Certainly a good option on a fast film if you need a little bit more speed. Cyan is nice, and so is blue. However, if speed is not an issue, or if you just don't like fast films, might as well just use the Ortho to begin with. It does look better than a filtered panchromatic film, IMO. It costs practically the same as Ilford's panchromatic films, so why not?

 

[Ian Grant]

I bought a box of 8x10 Ilford Ortho Plus thinking that it could be used like Adox ORT 25 in a camera. All of Ilford's literature, however, states its use as a copy film. I tried J&C's Ortho Copy film in my camera with dreadful results. Does Ilford's work well in the camera?

Thanks!
--Gary

I suggest you read Ilford's literature again as it includes a whole section on processing for different contrasts. While it's bought mainly for copying use it's also an excellent film for normal ortho pictorial use.

Ian

 

[Bounty]

Hi, Any suggestions on the best film for copy work in 120 size Thanks Karl

 

[Ian Grant]

If we ran out of Ilford Ortho film we used FP4 instead it was a fairly reasonable substitute, but it depends what you are copying. Much of my early work was producing copy negatives from old photographs and FP4 in 120 was fine.

Ian

 

[smieglitz]

...while it's not an Ortho version of FP4...

I read somewhere that Ortho Plus was FP4 Plus without the added panchromatic sensitization dye. Wish I could remember the source.

 

[Bounty]

Can you get ilford ortho in 120, bounty b

 

[Ian Grant]

You asked that before on the 19th of September Bounty here in the same thread !!!

No, sheet film sizes only.

Ian